MRTV's HP Reverb G2 through the lens video

I notice everything everytime. I think while we are closer than we have ever been we are still some ways to go. Hopefully the next five years are better than the previous five.

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Mura is completely gone on the G2. It was a big problem of the first generation.

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just to confirm, are you sure it’s like a mura or the pattern is uniform, so it might be more like different pixel’s colours (rgb diodes)
or gaps between pixels the same as on pimax 5k+ but much less, e.g. on my SN204 it looks like a brick wall (grey gaps). It’s really much better than on other HMDs but is still prominent for me though. On OLED screens it’s much less distractive though due to diamond pattern.

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The pattern is very very uniform and could be what you’re describing. It applies to the entire display when it’s there is any white background it is ‘obvious’ to me. Cause I see it on my 4K monitor that I use daily as well. And it’s the entire screen, the only reason I don’t complain is I don’t put my face literally inches away from my 4K monitor.

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then it’s not mura for sure, mura is like looking through a dirty window, it’s not uniform, the problem with mura is that separate pixels can’t render uniform colour & picture looks pixelized. Uniform & mura are 2 different matters.

But can you please elaborate more on this, is your case looks more like on the picture I provided above or it’s more like grey gaps pattern between the pixels, coz gaps don’t emit light & on white object (more bright) it’s more prominent.

Actually on the picture above you can see combination of 2 problems - rgb subpixels (separate diodes) + grey / black gaps (SDE) between the pixels

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@geoffvader thinks it’s Chromatic Aberration.

It might just be that since it’s like very microscopic colors ontop of what is supposed to be ‘Pure White’ Values.

@geoffvader When are you getting your X, I honestly like to know your opinion once it comes maybe I’m just seeing stuff from being a chronic insomniac.

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I will let you know as soon as I’m able, fedex app hasn’t pinged up anything yet, at least Pimaxquorra seems to say that my backer number is actually mine so that is progress of a sort.

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It is not Mura. It is the pattern that displays have for contrast I believe. Like the black dots on 5k+ and Index but not nearly as bad.

When will these dam companies make a bigger fov. Just waiting for this to happen

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Probably sometime in 2020 :beers::smirk::+1:

MRTV has no qualms in making these bold statements with the Pimax 8KX pre-production model. I think really behind the scenes there is more reasons why he does not want to do the comparison video right now.

From a reddit post.

Reverb G2 or Pimax 8K X if money were no object: his conclusion is the HP Reverb G2 by far. They’re similar in effective resolution (Pimax has higher res, but spread over much larger FOV), but quality of image is “way superior” with G2 (brightness, way better colors that pop, better sweet spot). G2 also doesn’t have distortions near edge of vision like the Pimax, and the Pimax does have a lower refresh rate.”

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And as he has said he will do a proper compare when he receives the final due to Kevin"s claim statement it is considerably better than the ces pre release. On the plus he has TTL of the CES pre production model and can direct compare it to Final release version and the G2.

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Which then makes his answer to the question inaccurate. Why not simply say that he won’t answer the question until he has the final 8KX version. NO. He went for it and said the G2 was “wayyy” better. That’s pretty damaging for Pimax right now. If Pimax have made such huge strides with the current Pimax 8KX they should have recalled the headset from him or asked him to refrain from using it in any videos. I really don’t think there will be much difference in the end and that even with the final version he will still favour the G2.

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The difference wont be the resolution , it will be the colours and the refresh rate . The biggest trade will be the bad fov though

What’s this obsession with endless conspiracy theories?

Sebastian was giving his honest assessment BASED on what headsets he’s currently tried. If he receives his final 8KX and it’s a lot better or even beats the G2 then he will say so! This doesn’t hurt Pimax at all. Most of the people watching his G2 videos are Rift S/Index owners who probably can’t afford the 8KX anyway.

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For me HP G2 better colors and brightness is marketing BS. Based TTL videos Index have it a bit better and Pimax 8kx and 8k+ with user adjustment in PT can have it even stronger. What count for me is accurate colors pallete but that is imposible to measure by TTL comparison as is filtered by camera…

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No offence but are you sure how youtube bussiness works ? do you have any experience with IT marketing campaigns ? knowledge about exclusive YT contracts and so on ?
There is always something behind the courtain and belive me nothing is for free, especially antena time…

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I don’t believe that he was “bought”, it more appears like investing into the future of the channel. Having a tendency towards a majority-compatible opinion is certainly helpful, but just claiming stuff out of thin air that can easily be refuted within two months by anybody would be extremely shortsighted. I don’t believe that.

But I agree that saturation isn’t always better, neither in images nor in audio. It might attract initially but one get’s tired of it fast. In the long run a natural representation is the best. We’ll see how they compare in that regard. Contrast seems to be better with G2 though, that is an important property. Hope the final G2 can also be “subtle” and not only “in your face”.

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Because it makes little sense to on one hand refrain from doing a TTL that you’ve already done in the past and on the other to then make a verbal statement about the thing you’re not willing to do even though you did them in the past. It seems like a big deal is being made over not doing a TTL at this time. I don’t understand why it has become an issue now and hasn’t been previously. If he can make the disclaimer that the 8KX is pre-production before making a verbal choice about the two headsets, then that same disclaimer could easily be used when making a TTL video.

It should be possible to measure colors on a standardized model, enthusiasts do it regularly for digital projectors and lcd screens (have done it myself).
This allows to construct a gamut triangle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamut

Maybe there are some difficulties in measuring values through the lens, but there should not be if possibility to remove the lens and target the panel with the color probe…

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