MRTV Subjective FOV Comparison

It was possible that there was an error and 140 its Normal not large. But no one uses the Large mode because of the distortions, so Pimax’s actual FoV is that in normal mode so 140

By the way…

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To be fair they mostly make fun of Pimax, not so much of the community.
Sometimes it’s a little… guys, really… But most times they manage to conclude on the constructive side of things.
The Pimax community has a high percentage of hardcode VR fans with indepth knowledge and high enthusiasm where I wouldn’t be surprised if some might play a role in the future of VR in one way or another. I think the best we can do is trying to keep the community together and retain an open, inclusive atmosphere. I’m positive the Alternative Reality guys (and gal) see it the same way.

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How can you know nobody uses the large fov?
Only in this thread many people said they use it, and I use it as well.
The index has two modes and he showed both.
Any this is what he said when showing the 8KX fov;

“…140º, and this is for the large FOV, the largest FOV that the Pimax 8KX CAN show.”

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i guess you missed my answer to Noro:

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this statement simply means:

I made an error, but i do give a f*** about that others complain/ found out.
And because that´s really insane, from now on i can state in videos what i want because it is only my very subjective opinion and even if i lie on purpose i feel not responsible for it because it is only my opinion. PROST!

:lying_face: :-1:

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General census is yes majority of folks use Normal FoV vs Large due to performance gains and less distortion.

We could run a poll in it’s own topic if you"d like a better demographic.

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Truthfully I don’t think the blurriness in the last 10°/ side equalling 160 is a big deal inless you have some reverse cross eyed condition as others have stated it is unatural to be straining ones eyes that far in each direction.

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This is exactly why there are many reviewers out there for folks to pick and choose reviews and reviewers they like.

As you can see 99 :+1: and 0 :-1: meaning his audience seems to be fine with his perhaps dramatics.

that‘s cute and touching :kissing_heart:

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Majority is not the same as no one.

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Well you know often ppl associate majority with the whole.

Ie Majority of ppl will have no problem with pimax headsets so one should encourage blind purchases as it is unlikely one will be one of the “very few”.

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I hope your son is not reading here ?! :see_no_evil:

Ps: if you buy 2 G2 you get a double FOV :grin::rofl:

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All people I know with Pimax they use Normal mode for clear reason…I cant know each user of course

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i prefer normal FOV also. better framerates for a minimal less view

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If I were to test 3 brands of car for top speed on racing circuit. At beginning I would say, it’s gonna be subjective (for whatever might the viewer imagine under this sentence). Measure it at (made up numbers):

Hyundai 80 km/h
Skoda 130 km/h
Ferrari 200 km/h

but I would report:

Hyundai 80 km/h
Skoda 130 km/h
Ferrari 130 km/h

When people would find this strange, because Ferrari is known for its high top speed and they would ask me, if there wasn’t something wrong with my measurements, I would respond with something like this: “In my country, there is top speed limit of 130 km/h on public roads, so I didn’t find it usable subjectively, so I reported it at 130 km/h”. To me this explanation would seem very dishonest…

@mixedrealityTV usually repeats every sentence three times, so forgetting to mention this big adjustment of the results upfront seems kind of suspect to me… If he did, I would have no problem with it.

On side note, I won’t be getting 8KX anyway - 1799 USD headset + base stations + controllers, 229 USD tracking + shipping fees + 20 % VAT on top of that combined with 1 year warranty with possible trouble with Pimax support if anything goes wrong + 75 Hz did it for me. So I’ll probably will be getting G2 when time comes, just not through @mixedrealityTV affiliate links, I don’t have trust in his info anymore. Just an opinion.

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:rofl::joy::rofl: made my day!
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don’t see how anyone can say the index looks better than the 8kx. I have index and 8k+ and the 8k+ is considerably better! There’s no way I would play this in an Index when I have an 8k+! Nooooo waaaay!

But to each there own I guess. I also can’t take Seb serious anymore after these comments! Actually I stopped doing that a while ago after he endorsed the Cyber Shoes so heavily.

Don’t worry Pimax users your 8kx will be way better than an Index!

What seems somewhat funny to me though was the things about 8kx that he was saying at CES and before that at some of the Pimax meetup. Now all of a sudden the index looks better. Something sounds a little fishy to me. A non biased 8kx preview COMING UP!

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Fomatterπ8k-X pre-order

Mar 24

It’s more likely Valve has spent a lot of time optimising Alyx for the index but as you say it will still look awesome on the 8kx .

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Possyguset8k Backer

Mar 24

I have again tried using My 5k+, but went back to the index, there is some thing not right with the geometry of the image on wide and normal FOV it is just off and dose not look right or feel right, not so bad if you switch to small FOV.

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SweViver:zap:pimax

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Mar 24

  1. Enable Parallel Projection.
  2. Disable FFR.
  3. Contrast +2, Brightness -2 in PiTool.
  4. You need to increase the maxRecommendedResolution. With default 4096, the 8KX looks low-resolution as soon as you turn on PP or Large FOV. With 16384 you get full sharpness on Normal and Large FOV with PP enabled. The config file in use can be found in 2 different locations:
    C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\openvr\steamvr.vrsettings
    or
    “C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\config\steamvr.vrsettings”
    Just add this line and restart SteamVR:
    maxRecommendedResolution
  5. Game settings on Ultra
  6. Use a RTX 2080 or 2080Ti with 8KX. The game has dynamic resolution, so if you run low on performance, the game will decrease the resolution automatically.
  7. Update to latest Nvidia drivers (improves performance and more)
  8. Enjoy. HL Alyx on 8KX blows away the Valve Index in every single way, hands down.

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Deuce75:switzerland: π5k+

Mar 24

Hi,

Is this number the same for 5K+?

Thanks in advance

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SweViver:zap:pimax

Mar 24

Just set it to 16384, even if its overkill for 5K+, it wont harm and wont affect the performance on the 5K+.
With this number, you simply remove any resolution limitation SteamVR has, no matter what headset you run.

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Deuce75:switzerland: π5k+

Mar 24

OK :+1:
Perfect, just the information I was looking for.

Thx

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jeroen:netherlands: π8k+ Backer

Mar 24

I second that, the game already looks amazing on my 8k+ cant imagine recommending the Index with it’s lower Resolution and FOV

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Possyguset8k Backer

Mar 24

Have you used an index ?

quanentanglement:us: π5k+ Backer

Mar 24

@Possyguset
Of course I said I own one. You don’t own a 8k+ or X. You own a 5k+. I can see how one would prefer index to 5k+, I for one did not! But index and 5k+ are similar. 8k+ is better than 5k+ and I expect 8kX is even better yet.

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jeroen:netherlands: π8k+ Backer

Mar 24

no that’s why i wrote, i can’t imagine it to recommend it, why return to lower FOV if it’s this good? And then even recommend it over a 4k native headset? But i guess everyone has a different experience.
I don’t want to go in to arguing what people should do and what they should like, but from my point of view as a 8k+ owner it’s weird…

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industria:de: π5k+ (8X) Backer

Mar 24

Well, there is definitely 1 reason im going to order index right today - HL:A is out, and my 8kx is still not delivered. My basestations are missing too, though someone said 1 months ago they have started shippments to EU. Goodbye pimax :slight_smile:

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Possyguset8k Backer

Mar 24

And were did I say the image was worse than the index, please explane ?

Possyguset8k Backer

Mar 24

Yes I agree, But I am not on about image quality, I was saying the Image is out of shape compared to the index. Now this could also be due to the fact the IPD will not go down low enough on MY 5k+.

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quanentanglement:us: π5k+ Backer

Mar 24

My image shape is fine, I see know differences between index. I did a back to back comparison.

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Possyguset8k Backer

Mar 24

Exselent, :+1: But I do :-1:.

acegamer:us: π5k+ Backer

Mar 24

Likely just down to individual experiences with a wide FOV headset. When I had my 5k+ I thought the image looked great and was never bothered by distortion or any other artifacts that a lot of people experienced with it. I am currently using a Valve Index because the image was really similar to my 5k+ but the overall experience due to comfort and audio quality was better. I do still miss that FOV though. I have an 8KX on order and look forward to getting my wide FOV back along with the improved resolution and added comfort. The reduction in audio quality is the only thing that I don’t look forward to with the 8KX.

Told you guys! Lol!

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I’ve heard that the G1 has many distortions as well.
Why is it not reflected on his USFOV (Usable Subjective Field Of View) video?

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