How many Backers were able to actually order and use the Eye Tracker coupon

You sure you’re not mixing 8K+ with 8KX?

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I mean reviews about the 8k + I can not find any other reviews for this headset. Although hundreds of them have already been sold.

I just wanted to show that there are not many people who bother. t,

There’s plenty of 8K+ reviews on YouTube and such, aren’t there? Google seems to suggest so.

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Really? i have search 1 or 2 months before. the only on youtube was true the lens from Mr.Wood.
and some older stuff for Pre modells

not sure what you searched, but a simple search on youtube brought up a lot of videos on 8k+…

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HEY, I just placed an order for eye tracker. The “Add To Cart” link became active and it worked!! At around, 11:00 PM Central Time USA. That’s mid-day China. GO GET ONE.

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Many thanks for the heads up, I grabbed one thanks to you. :heart_eyes_cat:

Stand at ease solidier, your duty is done. :guardsman:

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WOW
thanks for the info, after trying for 6 hrs the last 2 release times, i grabbed one after reading your post :slight_smile:

thanks

KraitPhantom

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There are multiple 8K-X written reviews on this forum, there’s even a whole subsection/thread created for it.

Don’t forget most 8K-X backers don’t have any desire or time to publically review their headset and once they’ve read a few themselves, then there’s literally no point anyway as each headset is identical.

This will change to a degree when non backers who run VR or gaming type Youtube channels get their hands on one, which won’t be till August or so.

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OK now I actually completed the process up until the point that I PAID for one - THEN I got a 500 internal error, the eye tracker is still in the cart, my order list is empty, and my money is gone.

I’m a grown man but Pimax makes me cry like a baby.

EDIT: cried too early - just received confirmation! Also, I just learnt that it’s just a pre-order …

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I’m not talking about “his” question, I was talking about mine! Can’t we just focus on the 98% to build a community with, instead of arguing about anything that feels unfair to you?

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Yes, created months after I bought mine in a regular shop in Europa.

Hope you can buy it.
Probably the shipment of the eye tracking module seems to have started today. I received a message from FedEx Korea this morning that a shipment was shipped from overseas. There is nothing but an eye tracking module. :wink:

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Worked just fine today, paypal had some problems but that also worked out.

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Welcome Back Crony! :pi_thumbsup:

It has been awhile. I recall you were making your own Wide FoV headset as a diy project. Using the InfiniEye old Docs.

Have you tried your pimax as it has had a lot of improvements since release in optimizing software and distortion profiles.

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Dear Kevin,

at least you are not just putting up the poop symbol this time but trying to argue. I welcome that.

On the current point: the majority of users I am aware of who originally backed the 8KX are clearly VR enthusiasts who risked substantial amounts of money on an experimental device, which at the time was not necessarily expected to be of any productive use but rather a proof of concept kind of thing (with features like two DP cables or the expected super-high GPU demand which was not even certain to be met by any then-available GPU). These kind of users often do share their experiences in the community. And I believe I said that I assume things, not that I know for fact how many 8KX have been shipped. I take information and try to rationally make assumptions based on it. It will not always be true, but sometimes it is. If 80% of the 8KX backers were enterprises who remain muted, okay, possible although I consider it unlikely, but that is my opinion. By the way, my impression is that VR content devs do like to speak out about their opinions but perhaps this is rather the independent devs.

And if Pimax have shipped so many devices as you state, fine. But first we were told 200 would ship, and only after questions and complaints arose, we learned that many of them are still in your warehouse as you are figuring out things with Fedex. To me these boxes are not shipped yet. Do you count them as shipped although they until yesterday at least were still in your warehouse ?
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On the bankruptcy: Pimax failed to serve pledges for 2+ years, pre-orders for 5-6 months at the time of my statement, while repeatedly claiming in public to have the goods in stock (May 2019/Autumn 2019/January 2020) and individually in response to support tickets several times that the delivery will commence “next week”, “in 3-5 days” etc. and each time not meeting such delivery dates.

Applying Western European standards, this is a clear writing on the wall that a company is incapable of performing it’s obligations which is one of the formal triggers of having to enter insolvency proceedings.

We were informed around that time that Pimax had made 436 shipments of base stations and/or controllers within one week (!) during that period when us backers & pre-orders vocal on the forum still received a mere 1-2 packages in total per month.

What exactly do you think we should make of that ? Either Pimax were incapable of meeting their obligations, as I suspected, or they were unwilling, which would come very near to the definition of fraud - to take the money with no intention of providing the goods.

Kevin, that is what we as paying customers have to conclude if we are exposed to this kind of behaviour over many months, with no good excuse. It is NOT normal to pay and not be served for many months beyond the delivery date given when being asked for payment. At least not, if the company intends to survive on Western markets.

And this started (for backers) long before Corona became a thing (May 2019 !) and continued when most other companies had recommenced deliveries from China.

And making such observations doesn’t make a customer act in bad faith. I do hope that other customers would warn me not to deposit a pre-payment to a company who is showing clear signs of being unable to deliver promised and announced goods. As simple as that. I would expect it from them, so I did it for them too.

Meanwhile, if you care to know, I can tell you that the reporting on the 8KX in the German community is definitely more subdued than it was 6-12 months ago, and there are reasons for that - it is not primarily because the 8KX’s performance is disappointing: that remains to be seen when more independent reviews surface. No, the excitement apparently was sucked away by the continuation, and even worsening, of the train-wreck news of customer delivery experience with the pre-orderers joining the suffering of the backers while pre-orderers simply do not expect to be given the Kickstarter “pray that you will see anything come your way, and it will be extremely delayed anyhow” treatment.

Pimax had a fair chance after the 8K/5K+ had finally been delivered. The delay of the 8KX would not have been too damaging, but the refusal to properly ship the promised base stations and pre-order or upgrade pre-paying customers (for that part they cannot be viewed as hardly-any-rights backers anymore) with this ridiculous series of “next week you’ll get them” messages damaged the reputation of Pimax heavily. Pimax already had a number of down-sides in the public perception, like the well-known issues of the subpar build-quality of the 8K/5K+, distortion discussion, finicky settings handling.

But now the lack of trust in Pimax aside from the quality & oddities of its headsets has been manifested in the past months. This will be hard to overcome. If I look around it appears as if the announcement of the Reverb G2 has taken its place for a number of VR enthusiasts and there are far more who are excited about that than about the 8KX. And that one sells, as a complete VR system, for 599$. If Pimax and HP were considered only roughly comparable in terms of reliability, it would be a battle. I fear that for many there is no decision making process anymore. They don’t trust Pimax, and for a device coming at a price tag of 1,300$, a certain amount of trust in the company is key.

These are the facts and my conclusions from them, Kevin. Your choice what you do with this feed-back from a customer.

Perhaps the 8KX is the uber-headset blowing away all of its competition and becoming a must-buy for all serious VR users in the world, let’s see. But I would not count on it just yet, and if it is not, the attitude towards the backers & customers, and towards critical voices highlighting areas in dire need of improvement, should perhaps be reconsidered.

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Exactly this ^, many of us supported Pimax heavily in the early days and have been trying to communicate our perceptions (which we’ve had to develop in the vacuum of information coming out of Pimax). In response to attempting to communicate, we’ve been called trolls, nutjobs, conspiracy theorists and all sorts of other names, and had poop symobls attached to our posts by supposedly grown up adult board level members of Pimax staff. And after 3 years of missed deadlines and this type of abuse we are supposed to keep silent, not complain and just wait patiently whilst supporting this same company.

Its not going to happen is it.

Who in their right mind would recommend anyone else board this trainwreck.

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TLDR

By the way, I just ordered the Eye Tracker via the backer link, finally it worked! :grin:

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Just ordered one as well, 40$ shipping seems a bit pricey, ouch.

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Don’t worry, my lengthy post is about the subplot of how critical voices/statements are being addressed here; likely of no further interest to you and off-topic to the OP.

Back to your post - is the eye-tracking module back in stock, or did they re-engage with pre-orders now ?

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