Anyone sticking with the 8k?

Here are a couple of screenshots from SweViver’s review. Open these to full screen. Keep in mind that (I believe) these were done with both HMDs at the same resolution. IMHO I think the 8K aircraft image is more well defined as a 109. The 5K image looks more blockish.

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It can also be an artifact from the camera and taking a picture through the lens.

It’s really key to bear in mind that moving images feel very different in this scenario. Essentially, as that plane tracks across the sky, those few pixels will have more little changes in the 8k- in the form of greys and blues. There are more pixels to split this image up with, so the gradations will be finer. That really doesn’t read till the image is in motion. Think something like the difference between an original nintendo and a super nintendo. Same goes for reading text- in the distance, the gradations around the outside of the lettering will actually make small lettering harder to read, because we look at those characters differently than an airplane. Large lettering on the 5K+ simply reads more clearly- like it would on an 8 bit nintendo. With fewer pixels, you get more stark tones due because the machine is forced to chose from fewer pixels.

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I believe he took the lens out to take the photo directly of the screen. A camera may introduce lens flare, color or lighting changes but I don’t believe it would diffuse or change the clarity of the pixel image on one vs the other.

Only if you assume SweViver is lying when he says he saw it :slight_smile:

I stumbled upon this and it made me wonder if it is waiting to be interred or if it has been exhumed?

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Backer 44 here, going with 8k. Got email this morning pulled the trigger. Good luck on your decisions all!

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Oh, I missed that part. Hard to keep everything straight with the hours of coverage and live streams.

Bollocks.

I am looking at this image on a 49" KS7000 4K HDR TV sitting a few feet away.

The 5K+ BF 109 looks more defined than the blurry 8K image. This completely contradicts what Sweviver has said about distance details. I believe then that these images are crap and spreading misinformation. They should be removed entirely. Taking pics through the lens is not an exact science and prone to many errors without proper equipment in the lab. Lifting images from a Youtube video to use as further evidence is even more problematic.

Please stop this nonsense.

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This why for comparison I think @DaHillersen’s simulated pics with instructions on how to view them is likely closer to what to expect. Moving images will look different than a still of a moving image.

We need something more like this.

http://www.optofidelity.com/test-solutions/rd-testing/virtual-reality-performance-testing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwxILdBRBqEiwAHL2R84Dnbct9czb05RhiU5T7ZVXrCwqlMN-1lK3JLfRHP74FE9k8WWfLlRoC9ssQAvD_BwE

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Not sure what you mean, but I believe the point was that the shape of the plane on the 8K looks fitting to a BF-109 while on the 5K+ it looks like, well, something different, surely a plane, but you wouldn‘t recognize it as a BF-109 as opposed to say a FW 190. And that is important to those playing such games.

So while the 8K seems to lack clear boundaries around objects and seems to smoothen the transitions unnecessarily, the 5K+ lacks the pixels to display very subtle details.

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Any chance you could circle some of the additional details you’re seeing in the 8k image? I’m struggling to see any details in the 8k that I can’t see in the 5k+. Admittedly, my lack of aircraft knowledge might be working against me.

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OK I get that. Although admittedly it looks more like a Spitfire.

The 8K image, the wings are more rounded, whereas the 5K image are just square. The BF109 has slightly rounded wings.

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Exactly, the shape is better represented by the 8K. The 5K+ version actually reminds me of a Starfighter (wrong era, was a fighter from the 1960 notoriously difficult to fly).

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Couldn’t that just be a result of smoothing that we see in the 8k images?

I’m thinking of sticking with the 8K. I have a Titan X graphics card, so I’m hoping it’ll be good enough until I find a buyer for one of my kidneys…

Rev

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Good clarification as someone like me might have thought sci-fi. :beers::smirk::+1::sparkles:

I thought the 5K+ image looked like a sailplane.

Spot the differences. Discuss.

Pic 1 is closer by 1m or feet
Pic 1 deeper red colour
Pic 1 plane wings are angular
Pic 1 Sky has some haze around it in
Pic 1 text is more in focus
Pic 2 text has haze around it
Pic 2 plane wings are rounded
Pic 2 plane tail and nose is just a blur
pic 2 is 1m or feet further away
Pic 2 text is less defined

We zoom in closer. Try squinting as well.

Pic 2 sky is nice and clear
Pic 1 sky has lines across it
Pic 1 looks like a plane - you can make out wings and tail fuselage.
Pic 2 looks like a black obelisk.
Pic 1 red looks darker has some CA on the right edge
pic 2 red has dots and more CA on right edge.

So basically this is clarity vs detail. SDE vs less SDE Which is better?

However, we cannot conclude anything from this seeing as it’s an image from a Youtube video which is from a camera image of the lens. :rage:

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Is it possible for @SweViver to restage these pictures with a plane that doesn’t have rounded wings so that we can see if the 8k does anything different? That way we may determine if its actually showing more detail and the roundednes isn’t just smoothing?