It was one of reasons during KS and perhaps pre KS it was discussed the benefits of supporting lower refresh rates.
Movies being 24p makes 75hz more ideal than 90hz, right? Thats an excellent point I hadn’t considered that but then why not 72hz…
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That I am not sure. 75 on the 8kX was likely because they were going for max possible refresh rate at the time for native.
Xtal iirc there 5k and 8k models were originally 75hz.
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Yes, that was me…both posts. After the Reddit post i discovered this forum so i started posing here.
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Well said. I liked your analysis for sure. Thanks!
are you able to recommend a Dp converter can do all just that?
90Hz didn’t work on my 8KX with the standard 299 firmware. I have a desktop with a Gigabyte 3080 Ti GPU and 5900X CPU.
Pimax customer support sent me P2_DEBUG_8KX_M299_t20211101115020_r85cdd55_forEnableHDCP.dfu which has had 90Hz working perfectly for me. By the filename, this appears to be a special build which has HDCP support.
Your comment that HDCP support has been removed and won’t be coming back has me concerned that I won’t be able to upgrade to future firmware releases without losing 90Hz (which I won’t be willing to do). Is that the case?
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Could anyone upload that FW and share it?
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@PimaxQuorra can you have the team release this firmware without needing it to be requested. @playa would add it to his repo.
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Hello,
You can try to download this firmware from the link below.
P2_DEBUG_8KX_M299_t20210922093913_r6066b70.dfu
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it seems to be not the same, as the name suggests?!
Hello,
It’s a different firmware, if you’re using desktop, I would recommend this version.
Is there a version for laptop?
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Still need P2_DEBUG_8KX_M299_t20211101115020_r85cdd55_forEnableHDCP.dfu tested your suggested FW and it didnt help.
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Here is the version @Sargon mentioned: P2_DEBUG_8KX_M299_t20211101115020_r85cdd55_forEnableHDCP.dfu
For me this is also the best 8kX firmware to date when it comes to 90 Hz support.
@PimaxQuorra wasn’t there the plan to provide these firmwares on the official Pimax page?
The PiTool auto update is still uploading incompatible fimware to people’s 8kX headsets. Me and others have reported this months ago - nothing happens…
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You can forget about Pimax providing their Files properly, they dont even have an Version History for PiTool which would be very useful (For Example in my Case using Pimax 4K with Nolo which only works on specific Versions).
But dont worry, the Community started collecting a while ago, ill try to keep the Collection updated, thx to @Heliosurge for tagging me so i keep up-to-date ^^ > https://community.openmr.ai/t/downloads-collection-of-piplay-pitool-software-and-similar
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Thanks a lot, heroic effort! Wasn’t aware that this exists!
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Hello,
Yes sir, I’ve submitted this request to our software team. They still reviewing it, as we concerned about if we upload all the firmwares on the page, it may cause users to flash the wrong FW and caused the headset stuck in DFU mode/ brick.
We’re discussing to find out the best solution to sort it out.
Simple enough to have dfu tool check current Hmd model against proposed FW and check FW compatibility and warn user if FW is not compatible
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That concern already happens. The various firmware versions are already available to customers on these forums as well as sources outside of Pimax’s control, but they are available in a haphazard and unorganized way which encourages upload of the wrong firmware to the headset. These are links to random firmware versions with usually little more information than “I flashed this firmware, and it fixed my problems!!! Everyone should install this!!!” and that encourages other customers to try firmware which may not be correct for their particular hardware or the issues they’re trying to resolve.
In addition, these are often links to firmware hosted on unofficial sources like google drive which were uploaded by individual users. That opens the possibility of customers downloading firmware that has been tampered with which poses a security risk.
By implementing and maintaining an official source of firmware, Pimax will improve this situation by taking control and eliminating the need for customers to pass around firmware themselves in an uncontrolled fashion. An official web page could list which firmware is intended for which headsets and could also warn clearly that installing firmware selected yourself is at your own risk. If you are unsure, please open a ticket with Pimax support instead to ensure receiving the right firmware.
Also Pitool should absolutely not be automatically installing firmware on launch without asking the customer’s permission to proceed. That is unusual behavior, and it’s not something you see in other products from other companies, VR or otherwise. I understand the intent in trying to avoid customers having the wrong firmware, but Pimax will never be able to eliminate all cases where Pitool’s automatic decision about which firmware to install is wrong. And that’s true for all companies, not just Pimax. That’s why everyone else asks permission from the user before proceeding.
Pimax isn’t doing itself any favors with its implementation of unusual policies regarding firmware for its products. Pimax should be looking to long established best practices regarding firmware which are used by the tech industry as a whole. Pimax is very aggressive at innovating new solutions, and that’s usually great, but this is an area where the problems are already solved, and Pimax is only creating new and unusual problems by making up its own way.
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