I thought the headsets were packed with “silica gel - do not eat” pouches.
So unless you’re going to eat the little pouches you’re safe.
From ncov and dehydration.
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Silica gel is a step in the right direction, but ultimately packages should be sent with entirely new never used facial foams (on the mas and headset). Suggesting a 14 day quarrantine eliminates the possibility that someone might get the OK from the doctor that they are not sick and they can go back to work (because the patient may have no fever when examined) as the virus can have an incubation period of up to 14 days where no symptoms are visible.
Two little preventative measures to take to ensure a lot of ease of mind for consumers and for the company.
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I sure hope they’re not sending used ones?
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There’s a possibility that if you cough your butt will explode and your bowels will drop out on the floor. Probably best not discuss this with your patient who came for a check up.
There’s a vast bridge between theory and practice, possibility and being real. Which was my point.
If you’re studying medicine then surely you’re doing hours in the hospital dealing with patients, god help them with whatever you’re telling them.
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I don’t give patients medical advice, I leave that to the doctors. I have; however, done enough study on virology to understand how viruses work and how they are transmitted. (as well as understanding the mixconception about viruses “dying” - viruses aren’t technically alive - they do require a wet medium to be transmitted from person to person or from a person to a surface ) You clearly haven’t done your homework on the subject.
You do realise you’re implying quarantining everyone in China. To quarantine is to prevent any contact and barrier off any potential transmission method. It takes a lot of resources and patient compliance. So let’s just do that to everyone with no evidence of having the disease, yeah a little measure indeed.
If they’re not quarantined then what stops them from contracting the virus on day 13 and then returning to work?
You’re talking all kinds of crazy. Probably well suited for the psychiatry profession.
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Show me again where I say viruses die. Even though it’s perfectly acceptable in conversation even between doctors as meaning non-viable. It just takes a little common sense, oh right that’s why you…never mind.
I never said quarantine everyone in china, but pimax staff on the assembly line should quarantine themselves at home for 2 weeks. (CNY ends on 10 Feb this year so effectively what I’m suggesting is already happening.)
They could be given the OK to stay at home for 2 weeks, and that would be enough time for symptoms to show in between now and then. Get a medical certificate confirming you have no fever or viral symptoms before returning to work.
No quarantine is perfect, yes there’s a possibility that the person could contract the virus on the way to work on day 14 (conversely to what you said, but I think you meant to say day 13/14 after having been quarantined as what you said didn’t make much sense) the point of quarantine is to minimise the chance of infection.
I’ve said my 3 cents on this subject (originally it was meant to be 1 cent), I feel that any further discussion in this thread will be unproductive. Unless you have something constructive to add to that.
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You are right, what was I thinking!
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Well said. Remember to check the PM @Heliosurge sent you yesterday.
-Trevor
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Even if the risk is really low, better take the two preventative steps of ensuring everyone has new facial foams and that workers remain at home until at least the 10th Feb before getitng the OK to return to work from a doctor, rather than not. For peace of mind sake,
It surely would not be funny to hear some users got infected from some facial foams which were sweated on from a worker who has the virus, and Pimax would never recover from that scandal if it happened.
Used as in; used on the quality assurance line by employees who test the headsets before shipping them, just to be clear.
Ok Dr. Jump To Irrational Conclusions. I stand by my statement. It’s not a concern.
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You consider it irrational, but if you actually listened to the WHO’s announce today on the status of the virus you would concede that taking these steps is in the better interests of everyone. (the UK also has a mandatory 2 week quarantine for any visitors from china BTW)
I really don’t want to have to do the I told you so dance, but if I do then it’s going to be all on Pimax’s account for not taking the simplest precautionary measures to address this and ensure that their customers (and staff) are safe.
Even if it is a relatively low risk, the risk factor is definitely there if you’re dealing with possibly wet facial foams damp from infected sweat.
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@DrWilken Maybe leather, probably not reliable enough for foam.
I’m not confident enough to say that rubbing alcohol would entirely eradicate 100% of any unwelcome organisms. Ideally bleaching surfaces would be better, but rubbing alcohol is used to disinfect so it’s better than nothing
The better solution is have facial foams specifically for testing before shipping (and ship headsets with new facial foams attached or unattached to hmd/mas included in the box)
@ Trevor - laugh as you may, its a concern i’ve seen posted 3 times in this last week. A very real concern people have. Many people are rightfully scared and it doesn’t help that not many people know much about virology.
Dear oh dear you missed my point entirely. Quarantine in China vs in overseas countries are slightly different circumstances, agreed. Does isolation achieve a similar result in China compared to those other countries? Yes. Especially if you buy two weeks worth of food so you don’t have a need to leave your house.
Isolate yourself at home, you have far less risk of getting infected at home from other people and it reduces the exponentiallity of infections/infection rate.
Further, if you stay at home for 2 weeks it allows you 2 weeks in isolation to figure out if you’re sick*
I’m well aware that big gatherings of people like at CNY cause excellent breeding potential for viruses. You either strawmanned me again or you missed the point entirely, because I was talking about extending the holiday to have people isolated at home so they could more closely examine their health and symptoms.
Abstract
The role of contaminated clothing in the transmission of influenza A virus during an epidemic period was investigated by examining the recovery of infectious influenza virus from experimentally virus-contaminated clothing, which had been subejected to routine wearing and washing for several months or years. The amount of infectious virus recovered from the nine types of clothing decreased with time and was shown to differ widely between clothing samples, when the contaminated clothing samples were maintained in uncovered glass Petri dishes in a safety cabinet under air blowing. These results indicate a dependence of virus transmissibility on the nature of the contaminated clothes. The difference in recovery was shown to have no significant correlation with the thickness or the materials of the clothing; however, a correlation was observed with the residual amount of water in the deposited virus preparation on the test clothing.
Bet you think you look stupid now, huh @Shazboticus?
Couldn’t they simply wipe them clean with alcohol?
Thanks for sharing your information. Much appreciated!
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All this talk about getting the virus from a Pimax headset is bs.
You might as well get hit by a meteorite and blame Pimax.
Can’t even believe I’m replying. Thought this all was a joke.
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Oh I see, it’s okay for other consumers just not pimax consumers.
CNY is the exact opposite of quarantine. Everyone mingling closely and travelling back and forth across the country. Which is part of why this virus is such a big deal.
Sending Chinese workers home for 2 weeks is a pretend measure which achieves nothing as they will be in contact with potential transmission sources the whole time. It’s different for travelers returning home from China, as they won’t be constantly in proximity of other transmission sources and if they do contract symptoms then we can at least begin a containment effort around the people they had contact with at home. But in China where it could be everywhere by now it’s a pretend measure.
I don’t mean to say in anything I’ve said that we should not take the virus seriously. But that means taking real measures that work rather than pretend ones. Focus on preventing transmission in ways we know it occurs. And don’t scaremonger people into doing useless things.
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Dr. I Can’t Stand Losing an Argument, it’s transmitted person-to-person.
Of course it’s beyond ridiculous. Any level minded person realizes that.
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