Oh i did not know that ! I did also buy a game in the past and downloadet a rom for it, because i did not want to switch on the Tv …
I also do not switch on the pc often and use the oculus for internet on the couch with a keyboard.
The reasons for this are just comfort.
So i do have to create my own rom for my own game (without uploading it)
hmm i did not even know how to do that…
One could hope but sometimes they just don’t get that. I was getting ready to buy RDR2 when Rockstar got involved. I’m sure it’s not the only sale they have lost over this. I’m also one who is inclined to reward such behavior by not supporting such companies in the future.
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Indeed. Really dumb as the game would be more or less finished for the most part in terms of new sales.
Mods like Luke Ross has made renew interest in these game titles. Why a company would want to cut off new revenue.
I remember how bad a rep Rockstar had with poor ports and some games you had to download cracks and other missing files; just to be able to run the game.
They came a long way with Quality with releasing Red Dead. But now likely will boycott them as well over there gross idiocy towards community.
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I totally disagree …I think you’re missing the point. This has nothing to do with copyright. Copyright in this case is being used as a bullying tactic by a company with deep pockets vs a guy who dares not stand up to them.
What’s happening here is that Take Two found out ,due to certain articles being posted about some modder making 20K a month making VR mods for their games.
Upon further investigation (probably attempting to try the mods for themselves) they realized that aside from GTAV all of his mods were $13.50 
a month.
Realizing they could not even try these mods with out paying is probably what started all of this.
How much does rockstar charge for RDR2 online? I bet they wish they could charge people $13.50 a month for that. My point is that they think the only people who should be making money selling features to their game is them.
So they use the simplest and vaguest method they can to bully him to stop.
When asked by Luke what he did to violate copyright they don’t respond , you know why? Because they know it’s not really copyright and they won’t ever say the truth which is…
“We just don’t like that you are making money”
Here’s the proof…how many mod sites are there using Rockstar imagery to promote their mods & modding tools. 1000’s. So it’s not the imagery or logos they have a problem with.
How many of the major overhaul mods have been issued Cease and Desists after Luke Ross?
None.
I’ve mentioned this to Luke Ross before and even before all of this , I thought it was a little weird that he was claiming that the Patreon money was for “Early Access” to his mods but to this day none of his mods have ever seen public release
I’ve been around long enough to know that when he releases a new mod it’s in its beta stage for maybe 3 months, during which time he seems to release updates regularly to fix issues that make the mod buggy. After that the mod is usually as good as it’s going to get and he basically moves on to the next game.
There is literally zero reason why Horizon or Cyberpunk mods shouldn’t be freely downloadable on his site right now.
If the Patreon were really not just a paywall for his mods he would only charge for his mods for the first 3 months of early development and then release them for free.
Therefore his Patreon would truly be just for people who love what he does and want to “support his efforts”
To point out some great examples of creators who do this. Latest look at Preydog. He is doing the same thing and he also has a Patreon . I can download each of his mods for free , (and arguably his mods have even more reason for Capcom to come down on him seeing as he’s adding legit full VR to all of the games that they probably stand to make millions off of creating exclusively for Sony and Meta.)
There’s no question that he is not charging for his mods because the Patreon is purely optional.
Raicuparta makes all of those Unity mods and he has the early access model where you get the early access for a few months before he releases or outright gives the source code
My point is that there’s no way to look at Luke’s pay model and pretend it’s not just a dude charging for mods. Claiming it’s just to support him is “just words” unless the mods are eventually given out for free
Now I’m not saying that charging for mods violates any law, he can do what he wants. But in this case so can 2K games.
I feel if 2K had looked at what he was doing and realized they could get these mods without having to pay him anything they wouldn’t have had any grounds to attack him. as plenty of other mods are out there for free that they could easily go after as well and haven’t.
Luke Ross isn’t doing anything I haven’t seen others do to their games In terms of hacking their engine to make modding possible.
Why not go after these guys
I bet you if an article came out tomorrow that lcpdfr devs were forcing people to pay a 13.50 per month subscription fee to play and that they were taking in 20K per month doing it. They would be C&D’ed tomorrow.
Sorry for the long post.
We can only hope that all of the other IP holders on Luke Ross’s List (Square, CDPR, From soft, etc…) don’t become as petty as 2K did. But if they do we will know why.
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they took down plenty of free mods i just had to literally torrent that free vice city gta V mod to try it in VR recently because it was taken down by 2k long ago,the mod was completely free in fact they even tried to take down open iv i remember,there is no pattern like “free vs paid”,most popular gaming patreon creators are people literally selling graphics overhauls like naturalvision quantV and many others for gta V using literally gta V assets and they dont release anything for free,i got one of those and i cant access the latest version exactly as if i was getting red dead 2 VR mod,but even worse since Luke was just selling his own damn code he can ask whatever he wants for his work,whatever 2k comes across sends a dcma,those articles were proly the reason 2k noticed it but the fact that the mods were behind a paywall wasnt relevant.
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Untrue, I willingly (and currently) give any reasonable amount I can to any creator who makes awesome things. Luke Ross included. What I don’t like is being told something is early access and then it never coming out of it.
…that reminds me, after that “Universal Unreal Engine 4 VR mod” reveal, I need to donate a sizeable sum to Preydog even though I don’t have to.
We can at least agree on this.
At the end of the day this is NOT about copyright it’s just a Big company doing this Ona whim.
I literally bought 3 mafia games and RDR2 specifically because of these mods and now I have to jump through hoops to play them.
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How long Mods have been free is irrelevant. Is there another alternate mods to the titles Luke make? Yes, go use those. No, then you pay if you find value to it. Don’t value to it, then don’t get it. You cant force people labors to be given for free.
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im soo glad 2k is getting leaked soo hard rn with gta 6,they already throwing the dmcas and this time wont do anything lol
We PC gamers have certainly been spoiled over the decades. When people have remarked at the money I have spent on the hobby, I point out that, dollars per hour spent, it is the cheapest form of entertainment I engage in. Free mods have contributed greatly to this.
This is not to say I won’t pay for something of value or donate to an effort, only to say how spoiled we are by creators who can do it for just the love of it.
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Maybe you can in your country or in your state. In mine you can’t change your car’s color as you wish. On our registration certificate, the color is specified. Even insurance companies calculate your contribution according to the color of the vehicle.
You can’t do what you want just because it belongs to you, otherwise everyone would have rocket engines in the back of their car.
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If you like being the pigeon, have fun and spend all your money.
I’m tired of repeating the same things, so go read my comments and we’ll talk again !
I presume you can simply by updating the registration. Though a car’s colour is a very poor example. Your insurance companies still use colour for your rate? That is terrible; am glad they seemed to do away with that nonsense.
A better example would be adding an accessory or after market stereo. A mod that does not use protected code or copyrighted materials like models etc… Is not breaking copyright.
Hi res textures and model packs can be said to be breaking copyright as it uses original artwork that is protected.
Much like in WINE you can use MS dll files providing you have a licensed copy of Windows.
You do know he is a DeV? So hardly a pigeon.
Depends on the country. I can put a rocket engine on my car here. Just can’t drive it on public roads if it’s not within specification. Honda has no say in it.
Yes, they argue that red cars are more likely to be stolen. They have a complete scale 
I know many studios who literally ban 3rd party programs based that doesn’t use copyrighted code to modify the game, and it’s TOTALLY LEGAL. I don’t know why Rockstar would be an exception, liking Luke Ross job is NOT a legal reason.
Yes, you can drive a car without a plate here too but not on public roads, but that’s not the point. We were talking about common use. The point is you can’t do anything you want even if you own it : there are rules.
Glad that idiocy was abandoned here. Though I believe they still discriminate based on sex.
Yes Ban being clear word not illegal; typically games with Online play as s mod may make it easier to cheat. So yes in that it is legal; much like rooting a playstation or xbox is legal as they simply release s new firmware that breaks the jailbreak.
Luke Ross’ job is legal as like WINE he is using his own code. Either way like Rockstar’s past issues have hurt there image and lost them sales this will be no different.
They have already lost a ton of new sales the mod brought to there otherwise mostly dead titles. Even a friend whom works for Rockstar just shakes his head at this stupidity. But like most companies needs to keep his views unofficial as stating things openly could cost him his career.
I thought your plates were part of the car vs owned by the individual but registered/licensed to the vehicle.
Looks like that past perception mistaken or has changed.
My point was Honda has no say (if I want to strap on the engine). Goes to the topic at hand. 
And you have my vote for the MOST ANALPHABETIC in this discussion.
I didn’t put cars in this topic, read better. An btw we talked about MODIFICATIONS USERS MAKE, not about automakers.
You should try this : https://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/
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