I find it hard to read this exchange (English and French versions)

The exchange im talking about :

https://community.openmr.ai/t/replied-im-about-to-lose-my-mind-here-i-beginning-to-question-whether-this-headset-is-worth-the-trouble/18218

—English Version :

I find it hard to read this exchange. I understand unfortunately the anger and frustration of “Jlemaster1102”. I am also afraid that “rus” is right in his analysis of the situation, having for my part reached a few nuances to the same conclusion.

But it is difficult for me not to sympathize with the situation of this nascent enterprise. I think that at the moment their daily life must be really hard. Their teams must certainly collapse under the workload and the pressures generated by the discontent resulting from their failures.

For my part, as a consumer, I have been waiting for only five months and I am already experiencing frustration and discontent. So I can imagine what those who are waiting for 24 months or more can experience. This is clearly a difficult situation for all we will not hide it. In such a context I can understand that the leaders of this company are tempted to make ethical mistakes to reduce the pressure on them. From my point of view I think that Pimax is a structure that was not yet able to sell internationally. This kind of work is very difficult and confronts those who venture into hardship. Those who do so often lose part of their humanity and soul during the process.

Maybe I’m wrong, it’s a possibility that I do not exclude but pimax people seem to be people of good will. I teach no lesson to anyone. Everyone has to face their struggles and their ways of dealing with them, but if Pimax is an honest company then I urge everyone to behave with as much patience and tact as they can. Life is pretty difficult like that. Let us strive not to turn it into an ordeal for those who make our virtual reality headsets. So far, despite extraordinary delays, major problems with deliveries, after sales and information, the company seems to be honoring its orders and making steady progress.

As for Pimax, I hope that she will not be averse to her clients who remind her insistently and sometimes violently the lack of her obligations because even if they are sometimes expressed harshly and until the legal procedure they remain nevertheless legitimate. As a simple member of the community but doing echoing others I ask him to be as transparent and honest as possible in order to satisfy their customers and defuse the crisis of its beginnings.

This community that has built up around its action can accept many things. She has more or less demonstrated it over time. But she needs reliable information. This community is not a confusing mass that must be managed. These are individuals who must be able to make informed choices. It appears that in the process from ordering to delivery there are far too many failures in the validity of the information that calls into question the probity of those who supply them. I think that many of us prefer to wait a year knowing that it is the time required rather than six months thinking to have to wait for two.

Finally, I wish good luck to all members of the community for the difficulties, delays and problems to come and good luck to the company Pimax to meet the challenges it has made the choice to face.

—French Version :

J’éprouve de la peine à lire cet échange. Je comprends malheureusement la colère et la frustration de “Jlemaster1102”. Je craint également que “rus” n’ai raison dans son analyse de la situation étant pour ma part parvenu à quelques nuances près à la même conclusion.

Mais il m’est difficile de ne pas compatir à la situation de cette entreprise naissante. Je penses qu’à l’heure actuelle leur quotidien doit être vraiment dur. Leurs équipes doivent certainement crouler sous la charge de travail et les pressions que génèrent les mécontentements issus de leur défaillances.

Pour ma part, en tant que consommateur, je suis dans l’attente depuis seulement cinq mois et j’éprouve déjà de la frustrastion et du mécontentement. J’imagine donc assez bien ce que peuvent éprouver ceux qui attendent depuis 24 mois ou plus. C’est clairement une situation difficile pour tous on ne va pas se le cacher. Dans un tel contexte je peux comprendre que les dirigeants de cette société soient tentés de faire des entorses à l’éthique pour faire diminuer la pression qui repose sur eux. De mon point de vu je penses que Pimax est une structure qui n’était pas encore en capacité de vendre à l’international. Ce genre de travail est très difficile et confronte ceux qui s’y aventurent à de solides difficultés. Ceux qui le font perdent d’ailleurs souvent une partie de leur humanité et de leur âme durant le processus.

Peut être que je me trompe, c’est une possibilité que je n’exclue pas mais les gens de pimax ont l’air d’être des gens de bonne volonté. Je ne donne de leçon à personne. Chacun doit faire face à ses combats et à ses façons d’y réagir mais si Pimax est une compagnie honnête alors j’exhortes chacun a se comporter avec autant de patience et de tact qu’il le peut. La vie est assez difficile comme ça. Efforçons nous de ne pas la transformer en calvaire pour ceux qui fabriquent nos casques de réalité virtuelle. Jusqu’à maintenant malgré des retards hors norme, de gros problèmes de livraisons, de SAV et d’information l’entreprise semble honorer ses commandes et faire des progrès constants.

Quand à Pimax j’espère qu’elle ne prendra pas en aversion ses clients qui lui rappellent avec insistance et parfois violence les manques à ses obligations car même si elles sont exprimées parfois durement et ce jusqu’à la procédure légale elles restent néanmoins légitimes.En tant que simple membre de la communauté mais faisant je penses écho à d’autres je lui demandes donc de faire preuve d’autant de transparence et d’honnêteté que possible pour parvenir à satisfaire leur clientèle et désamorcer cette crise de ses débuts.

Cette communauté qui s’est constituée autour de son action peut accepter beaucoups de choses. Elle l’a plus ou moins démontré à travers le temps. Mais elle à besoin d’informations fiables. Cette communauté n’est pas une masse confuse que l’on doit gérer. Ce sont des individus qui doivent pouvoir faire des choix éclairés. Il apparait que dans le processus allant de la commande à la livraison il y a des défaillances beaucoup trop nombreuses dans la validité des informations qui portent à remettre en question la probité de ceux qui les fournissent. Je penses que baucoups d’entres nous préfèrent attendre un an en sachant que c’est le temps requis plutôt que six mois en pensant devoir en attendre deux.

Je souhaites pour finir bon courage à tous les membres de la communauté pour les difficultés, les délais et les problèmes à venir et bon courage à l’entreprise Pimax pour relever les défis qu’elle à fait le choix d’affronter.

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Well said. Anytime pimax has come forward with good clean information on circumstances the community has rally to support them. But as often as it is old patterns are easier than establishing new good practises.

It’s hard waiting for product & change. But in the end it is all we can do. Hopefully time will temper this company in the direction we all can be behind.

I too, had sympathy and support for Pimax until they started lying and trolling anyone who called them out over it. Never an excuse for that. If you go back to that thread you will notice that my posts have been removed. This fascist tactic just goes to prove that my analysis of the situation WAS correct. So much for their "transparency ". I guess you cannot come to the defence of a fellow enthusiast with the truth without being black balled. I now only feel sympathy for the brilliant technicians at Pimax who’s name unfairly has been stained by the unethical behavior of their management. If you remember, in one of my posts I said I am not only willing to wait till xmas but the following xmas if need be because I loved what the technicians were trying achieve. Having a computer engineering degree, I fully understand the difficulties and unforeseen problems that can and will occur. It’s the way management now treat there fans and supporters that made me turn. You are right in saying that they should have kept this locally in China and avoid nations that are willing to go to war in defence of free speech, until they sort their questionable ethics. I guess censorship is the norm over there. You must have a beautiful soul to be so forgiving.

No not fascist at all. I removed all posts that had nothing to do with the Ops request for support. Including my own.

So you basis on that is incorrect. Clouding his topic with non sense only makes it harder for the op to get help.

I also removed the other gentlemen’s nonsense posts. Simple truth we derailed his topic. I merely corrected it and apologized to him for allowing it to happen & participating maybe you could do the same.

No need to apologise to him, we are in contact and appreciates my understanding and support with his problems.