I would say if the JSON is not the problem, then vertical offset might do the trick. It makes a huge difference for some people whose eyes are not in the most optimal position relative to the nose and forehead.
Have you tested to adjust the vertical offset in PiTool, @mixedrealityTV? But please test the JSON file first.
Sure, but if Sebastian is the only person so far reporting this issue, I would say eliminating the possible software/hardware mismatch on that specific device would be a more reasonable solution. Especially now since no-one can travel anywhere.
If we didnt have corona, I would potentially be in Germany tomorrow, bringing several 8KX units to the MRTV HQ to troubleshoot. We have a difficult situation to deal with right now.
A camera TTL will never show this problem. Its all about the stereo-view, which is very much related to the IPD value.
My IPD is 62, But I have to have the IPD set to as low as it goes 59, If I set anything above that, the distortion gets more pronounced. would not say its distortion, it more the geometry looks wrong.
Yet My Vive or My index the IPD can have a very wide range with out changing anything, it just makes it go out of focus.
I could use my HTC Vive on any IPD value. I never cared about that dial back in the days. Its because the panels are not canted, which makes these headsets much less dependent of the IPD.
Although, on Valve Index, I cant use it below IPD 68, I get a cross eyed view and cant focus on close distance and mid-distance. Canted panelsā¦
Marcin, I like your enthusiasm in working to convince the people of the quality of the 8KX, but please remember that by doing so you are actively luring people into pre-ordering it directly at the Pimax store, where they will be forced to pre-pay on the spot.
What makes you believe that Pimax will be able to pay for the components of the 8KX to be able to ship the 8KX to all of the backers and pre-orders if they didnāt have the money to pay their suppliers for the other long-outstanding deliverables either ?
If this blows up and the guys never receive anything back for their money, they will remember your role in it, and that you ignored the writing on the wall.
You canāt say that you had not been warned about it. And there is no good explanation for delaying the shipments of some of those deliverables yet again, after Kevin told us last April that they were going to ship in 2-3 weeks and Matthew said they would ship in January.
You have sufficient information to have to doubt what-ever Pimax may be telling you why they donāt ship the deliverables.
Itās your reputation which is on the line too, if you have any plans continuing your channel after the Pimax episodeā¦
That remains a rather poor bandage, though; Optical alignment really must be priority one, which canāt be pointed out enough times, which is why Iām interjecting it now. 
ā¦but sure - for a test, the offset could help.
ā¦Is it known whether the vertical and lateral offsets only shift the image on-screen (presumably), or adjusts the pre-distortion with some asymmetry, for off-axis viewing, as well (fat chance, Iād wager)?
But going by some of your videos and watching your eyes, it looks like you have a very very mild case of exotropia, witch would explain why.
As I have a very deep insight into the progress and our partners, I am fully confident we have all parts necessary and this is not the issue. I can admit we should have a order option available without pre-payment, which both me and Kevin has discussed and opted for with the team, but meanwhile, there is no doubt every single 8KX order will be fulfilled according to our current schedule.
Pimax have investors and we have no problems paying the suppliers for the parts, and if we ever had this problem, this information would be instantly delivered to the public, especially since the orders are paid in advance.
The current delays have been caused by closed factories due to the corona outbreak for more than a month. The second reason was re-tooling some small parts, as the metal hinges. But things are back to normal and we are currently catching up with the current schedule.
There is no need to speculate this. It only creates more confusion and worries, which Pimax doesnt need at this point. Pimax, just like any company needs to make sales to survive. Without manufacturing and delivering products, there will be no sales made, and we are fully aware of that. There is nothing more important right now than making the 8KX + MAS available with the first batches, and we are doing everything we can to speed up the process.
Interesting 
This is nothing that my optician said last time. But I will do a new visit soon.
That is very good to hear! When will that ācurrent scheduleā be shared with those who have preordered already?
You have now really taken responsibility, as you say you have a lot of insight, so you canāt pretend later on that you didnāt know and were mislead. You are aware of that, I hope ?
Nice words, but the actions are what counts. Pimax continues to collect the money for new orders while being up to 2+ years late on deliveries paid at the time of ordering/backing.
Oh come on, this is the real world and most of the users here are not small children whom you could tell this kind of stuff. If we lived in fairy tale land Pimax would have delivered the 8KX in May 2018. They didnāt do so, and they will not let us know that they have run out of money until they file for bankruptcy.
No, as far as the delays on the accessoires are concerned. The corona virus neither ate up the stock Kevin told us of in April 2019 nor did it do the same with the stock Matthew told us of in December 2019. If the deliveries were supposed to finally start in January 2019, after the latest of a series of inexplicable delays, they would have happened before the corona-virus escalated around CNY in February, and otherwise the deliveries would be shipping since early March. I have two other KS/IG campaigns with production facilities in China, one of them was delivered a week ago and the other one is shipping to me in April, while some 4.000 backers have already received theirs - both had some delay due to the corona virus but have confirmed that in China their processes are pretty much back on track and transportation is not a huge issue anymore.
If you are talking solely 8KX - a company not able to pay its suppliers for the accessoires it still is selling to customers today (!) is just a very small step away of being no longer able to not pay the bills of the suppliers of the components of the 8KX or its employeesā wages.
Itās a high risk investment, if anybody prepays to Pimax today.
Maybe thatās the plan - focus on new sales of the 8KX to somehow survive, and let the waiting customers of the accessoires and possibly 8KX backers starve to death. Who knows, if Pimax are back in business in 1-2 years, perhaps they will even consider to deliver the goods then.
Sorry to be the one to break it to you - this is not an accpeted approach in the business world. A company no longer able to meet its obligations is obliged to file for insolvency.
Itās as simple as that. No right to cherry-pick which contracts are being fulfilled and which arenāt.
And anybody who continues to sell products he is clearly not in a position to deliver anymore, like the Index controllers and lighthouse stations, is committing an offence because it means that he is taking the money of the customer with no intention of performance.
The laws are pretty clear on that part, you know.
Marcin, you may recall that I have been defending Pimax on quite some occasions here, and I was in Amsterdam, we met in Delft, I have been an eager messenger for Pimax over the years in the German community, but this is now the end of the road with Pimax for me.
I might have been overly patient, blind and easy to fool but if you really bang my head on the table so many times as Pimax have done by now, I will wake up one day. And this day has come, believe it or not.
Thinking about taking preorders without up-front paying for unreleased products would be worth considerring to build up trust.
But telling their marketing manager to stop being positive about their products (even though he is personally convinced of them) or even stopping sales altogether until all old orders were fulfilled - well, it doesnāt make sense, imho not only imho. There arenāt so many headset developers out there (particularly few without a data-collection agenda), so even as a more manufacturer-neutral, VR enthusiastic person we should hope for the best!
And imho there is a lot of reason for that: They are very close to the finishing line with Artisan and 8k-X, both look promising and have unique selling points!
The point is, companies are not entitled to decide to not fulfil a range of contracts just because they otehrwise would be bankrupt. If they reach this state, at least in Western countries their officers are obliged under sanction of criminal law to file for insovency. That doesnāt mean that they close the business but then a liquidator decides whether they have enough substance to continue, and he will take into account the interests not only of the shareholder of the company but also that of the creditors in order to balance out the rewards & damages.
If I see a company trying to avoid the delivery of a whole stack of existing orders while selling the exact same product to new customers it oozes last stage before bankruptcy to me, and I want to warn the users in this forum to consider twice if they pay Pimax today on a pre-order with unclear future fate.
I do agree with you that there is a chance that an 8K+ order may be fulfilled but if you ordered or upgraded your backing to get the Index controllers, lighthouse stations ? Hardly any chance of delivery, as it appears.
So why do I warn people if it jeopardizes my own interest as I am to get an 8KX and two sets of stretchgoals and controllers and lighthouse stations ?
Because I would expect, hope for the same from the users in such a forum of shared interests if I was about to invest the money today. I would be pretty upset if I spent much time reaing in such a forum and spent the money today, and 4 weeks later Pimax ceases its operations and the other users then tell me that it was quite obvious to them what was going to happen but nobody cared to warn the others to send their money to a dying business. Weāre in it together and I believe we need to be open towards each other.
I understand. Just consider that this warning (when people would really stop buying anything because of this) might make your fears a self-fulfilling reality even though it could have been prevented in the first place. (Pimax donāt have the ability to cross finance stuff as much as e.g. Facebook or Valve)
But I agree that playing with open cards is important, I hope (and still have some trust that) Pimax does this and can deliver as Marcin wrote.
Assuming the whole world doesnāt drop into a megga recession, which I donāt think will happen, then I think the business model is too strong for them to go bankrupt - they would get finance if they need it even if it means being bought out by a bigger company and then they couldnāt continue if they just wiped out existing orders - the brand couldnāt survive if they did that to consumers. And I believe Martin has a bit more info than heās allowed to release. Hold tight and I think you will be hearing very shortly about the first shipments. - a lot of 'I thinkās there I know but for what itās worth!!
Sebastian, I use the 8K in Il2 Great Battles and fly with 64Hz setting and fps around 50 - I have SteamVR smoothing enabled and my head is swiveling around constantly especially in Fights against enemy fighters and bombers. There is no issue on Large FOV and lag or studdering. Motion is smooth. This with PiTool at 1.75 and SteamVR Video and App both at 50%
There is no way I would fly Aerofly FS2 or any other commercial sim, it is either Il2 or DCS. I canāt imagine the 8K-X being much of an issue with its 75Hz Native Res. For those that do, there is always the scaler switch.
exotropiaā¦
At this point, I might be the first to spend over a full week, well over ten hours per day, using the Pimax Vision 8kX for sim/desk work, and something interesting happened at the end of one of those sprints, when I was most exhausted.
Someone noticed one of my eyes was tracking (in ārealityā) slightly differently than usual. After checking in the mirror, I found this was indeed the case - IIRC my right eye was misaligned by perhaps 0.5mm. This misalignment was absolutely consistent (not muscle fatigue), and the central area of vision in both eyes remained as sharp and approximately large as normal, so any shift must have been small relative to this region (I am skilled in shifting attention without moving my eyes).
To be clear, I do not think this is something to worry about, merely normal neurological adaptation. By the next day, alignment had returned to normal.
Just goes to illustrateā¦
What you see in the headset on day one will not be what you see thereafter.
At this stage, with this kind of build up over years now, I fear it is no longer going to really matter what I write in terms of which way Pimax is going - if you are unable to deliver a simple resale item like the steam codes and lighthouse boxes for over 2 years, and Index controllers for a couple of months, you are done. They are just trying to put out a few of the fires while the big ones blast away, like sending out Steam codes for cheap software now when the heat is getting to them.
We all may be doomed anyhow, but it is our responsibility to prevent more to join us.
I have to accept some responsibility in the German VR forum for having been quite supportive of Pimax through the past 2,5 years and I am sure some will be a bit unhappy about it because it influenced their purchase decisions too. So I needed to let them know that there is a risk, my reputation is at stake too.
Well, how many times could we read that e.g. in relation to the lighhthouse station deliveries ? They were due in January 2018, and consider low risk because they would just get them from Valve and forward them to us. Then the long winding tale of the unexpected obstacles startedā¦there is always something coming up in the last minute, but āHold tight and I think you will be hearing very shortly about the first shipmentsā - how many times does this process have to be repeated until you would start to doubt that you will actually be hearing something meaningful & true about delivery really happening in short time ?
Well, I think there are people left who still think more positively. Would perhaps not endorsing Pimax anymore (which I would fully understand when reading your opinion) instead of actively trying to convince people that all is lost and doom (even though it might not be) be a still reputable option? Perhaps we should also move this discussion into another thread.