But the 5k really needs a 20 series card anyway. why ss the hell out of 8k when you could just run it native with software tweaks
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I can’t remember where Xunshu said it…but she mentioned that it is best just to make the decision based on what is currently available instead of any potential to upgrade. It felt like a hint that an upgrade wouldn’t likely happen.
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Indeed. We gotta settle with the 5kplus. As it seems. And after all, it’s not a big problem. Especially if you realize most of us could not drive the beasty.
Still, it feels a bit strange to back a 8k and ending up getting a 5k. For it, to be better in several ways.
Yeah i ordered a Mercedes, but then the Fiat had keyless entry! Lol 
Did Pimax actually commit to that or simply suggest it might be possible?
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But here’s the problem. Single Bridge chip can’t run 2 4k panels & DP1.4 doesn’t have the Bsndwidth.
So remove the scaler & you’d need Brainwarp to run it. If it could by alternating display output after the bridgechip to determine left then right etc.
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LOL. Man after a while on the forum I sometimes start to think that the emperor actually wears clothes. But yeah, reading comments like this makes me realize that I’m not the only one seeing the emperor without clothes. I don’t think it can get any more crazier than this: heavy upsampling the 8k to then downsample it to then upsample it again, while you could just display it natively directly at MUCH better quality. That’s just a huge fail in itself. No way around it .
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It’s a safer answer & better than stating yes we can fix it.
The 4k had plans to unlock 4k native compressed with dsc? To 30hz & decompress it to 60hz after the bridge chip. Unfortunately they hadn’t known/researched that neither Amd or Nvidia supported the open standard used in Arm Gpus.
So in the end they had egg on their face for not being able to deliver it.
So it’s good advice to base a decision on known current factors vs unknown possibilities.
Consider they could have just relessed the 5k & 8k without coming up with this choice. All Hi FoV headsets near or Released have not gone past 5k. Mgpu might be needed to step past 5k for decent results even with a 20series card. But we won’t know until we do.
Amd cards could possibly shine finally with the Hbm2. But maybe not.
Keep in mind we wouldn’t even be discussing the 5k, if it wasn’t for users like yourself whom suggested it should be made.
I really want to compare native qhd lcd headset to the 4k as it will have similar properties to what we are seeing between the 5k & 8k. Rgb is superior to Pentile.
As if I am not mistaken you are the owner of an lg Oled TV if LG mem serves they use an Rgb-W matrix. If it was Pentile at a large TV size would look more as 1 user explained elsewhere 1080p TV in terms of sde at that size.
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Yeah except there are some users that are clinging onto the old statement about a potential upgrade. I really wish they could make a definitive answer because to me the 5k+ and 8k are a coinflip…and a definite upgrade path might be enough to swing me to the other way…
Right now I have to make a choice removing that consideration…But then I know I’ll probably be feeling annoyed if it is announced after I choose and receive a 5k+ that an 8k upgrade path becomes definite.
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That’s the real question a lot was said during the Kickstarter imho in Haste. But if it was a store & Bob representing Store agreed to give you 20% off the store would be committed to honor that. But I don’t think this is as simple. Obviously this if done would be or should be backers only & ot extend into consumer release.
Which is why I want a legit RGB 1440p lcd 100FoV headset to compare to the original 4k that upscales.
Agreed they need to finalize details like that.
Yea, I hear what your saying… but again, did Pimax actually say they would do it is what I’m actually asking? I don’t mean to give you a hard time on this… I honestly don’t remember myself… there’s a big difference between Bob saying… I “will” give you 20% to I “might” give you 20% depending on this or that. One would hold up in court (the "will) while the other (“I might”) wouldn’t. If memory serves me… Pimax gave the “I might” option on that.
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Right, a change of scaler as soon as possible and a commitment to upgrade from 8K to 8KX for a reasonable price and no one would change to 5K+, @deletedpimaxrep1. Less mess and more money.
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Imo yes both here & beleive on kickstarter comments. But there was the “when released as a consumer product”… 8k makes sense as they would need to swap some electronic mainboard & leave you your screens & housing & package new dual input cable.
How long your without your headset? That’s the question.
huh… thank you for correcting me. That is an interesting caveat though… It could be interrupted differently I suppose.
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Man Pimax should just forget about the Pimax 8k. Just release the 5k right now and work hard to get that 8k-X out ASAP. Doesn’t matter if it’s too hard on current GPU hardware, people can just under sample if needed.
What would really be the point if there isn’t really any GPU today that can power it? Don’t get me wrong… if anything, I’ve become real interested in the X model since the reviews came out.
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People can just under sample, so use SS < 100%. Also other solutions could be used, limiting Fov to 140 (which seems preferred anyway by people like MRTV) and work on foveated rendering for at least the distortion correction.
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opps… I deleted that post by accident…
you think foveated rendering can be completed that quickly?
EDIT… AH, I see how I can undelete it… learning something new everyday!!
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