Now here comes high def sunlight.
Hehe that guy didn’t get it. Obviously the reason for such high nits is pancake where only a small percentage reaches the eye. But as @anon57422158 once correctly noted this will bring some heat management issues to the table since the energy will be converted to heat.
At a 10:1 ratio we’ll see 1000 nits to the eye, that’s pretty bright compared to a TV that only covers a fraction of your eye sight. I think 1000 nit displays are usable in sun light so pretty on par with real life.
I’m sure technology will move with the times with regards to heat. Attaching heat pipes to the lenses might be a good idea lol
Watching Dune with 1000 nit heat might add to the experience.
Indeed will only yield at max nits 500 - 1000 nits through the pancake. Then you also need to minus brightness further to combat persistence. And then of course the extra heat etc… still cool.
Was reading Burbusters has some test panels that can do 1000hz flickerfree and apparently the 4090 can drive enough frames to match up with 1000fps. They are in talks to see if they might demo it next year at GDC iirc. Bump me will see if can find link for it later.
This might have the detail.
This is promising. If any of you know how to weld… You should check out the free 20m demo of the $1000 welding ap.
Peak: is simple Op is on a plane(no he is not the pilot
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https://www.xrtropolis.one/t/we-lived-a-full-marvel-studios-what-if-vr-experience/1845?u=heliosurge
This sounds cool.
Kinda agree. I still REALLY love mine but not using it that much. Then again, not using my Q3 much neither. Hopefully some good news will come monday at WWDC regarding new features.
Just watched the AVP announcements at WWDC. So it will go on sale in several countries june/july, I think they said Canada june, Germany and UK july. Definitely go and check it out at an Apple store near you if you can, even if you’re not planning to get one, it’s an awesome demo that I’m sure everybody who visits this website will enjoy.
Not sure about the new features though, the volumetric API could be interesting. Other than that I didnt see any new mind blowing features
EDIT I see that native mouse support is coming that’s interesting. So that’s at least a breakaway from the original thought that you should do everything without controllers. Now all they need to do is release 3D controllers too LOL.
EDIT Vision Pro is Leaving US Exclusivity as Apple Set to Launch in New Countries Starting This Month
Been waiting for AVP to arrive in London will certainly book a demo once available. Recently had demo with Crystal Light very nice to be trying new equipment again!
Since you have both AVP & Q3…
Have you tried this out for fun?
That must be the dumbest article ever written about the AVP. I mean really, this guy either is just trolling or really dumb. Obviously the strength of the AVP is not the apps. It’s the technology, creating an optical fidelity way beyond what the Quest3 can offer. Of course you wont get that if you can run the same apps on the Quest3. It’s like taking the multimedia software out of a Ferrari, put it in your fiat panda and then write an article “See you don’t need to spend $500,000 on a Ferrari, just buy a Fiat Panda” And then write sentences like " It’s even harder to justify spending $500,000 on a Ferrari now". I mean he’s joking, right? RIGHT?
Anyway in other news, ALVR is available now from the app store so it’s become really easy to install it and mess around with it. I was surprised at how good it looks, of course depending the app. Its’ really nice.
Also I tried that free game “What if”. As a game, the game play itself is pretty boring. But damn this is a really awesome showcase of what the AVP can do. The GPU obviously is very powerful and it’s just such a delight to game with such high optical fidelity, it’s really an awesome demo to try, that mixed reality part is really really nice. I wasn’t too eager to try it, I hate disney and Marvell but everybody with an AVP should at least try it, it’s way nicer than I thought, I really enjoyed it !
The fidelity is great but it is the features that Apple has been toting as big. So if the Quest 3 had a refresh with the 4k Oled screens. Could the experience be close or on Par?
Even Apple is seeming stepping back to focus on a cheaper model with presumably using the same Screens. Showing that the Quest Xp can mimic features.
Allows ppl considering the expense to try out AVP like XP on a headset they currently own.
Now you want crazy look at VR1 with the number of versions to pick the features you want a included. They even have an AVP priced version ![]()
Of course the Q3 having lower quality display is going to have that against it. My proposal to you and @twack3r was to give the Spatial App a go and report on how well it works in comparison for ppl in a budget wanting an AVP like XP it might be good for the masses and help sales when Apple releases a consumer friendly model.
We can all agree Meta’s next hmd release will be focused on showing they have something potentially as good for a cheaper price point than
Lite model. ![]()
You can see Zuck was bothered by the AVP release to start focusing on that the current Quest can do a fair number of AVP’s bling apps.
And of course now Sony is releasing their Enterprise Spatial headset.
In 3 weeks you can check it out at an Apple store in Canada @Heliosurge. Best to do that and you’ll see why this article is just incredibly stupid. Apple does VR like no other does, not even close. And that’s not because of the apps.
Except they are more targetting MR than VR.
Apple more than others will always have a more unique unified interface.
Earlier you stated
The hardware we know is great as they are using very new hardware vs the Q3.
I am not opposed to trying one directly But we know great hardware needs great apps to get the quality user XP.
Majority of articles add unnecessary fluff. As mentioned if you can get AVP like experiences as was even shown in the very early release. That is a good thing
No one who has spent the money on an AVP shouldn’t feel put off by DeVs developing App XP that mimic.
A Ferrari has very limited uses. But is a great collection of tech. I would place the AVP as more useful than a Ferrari overal.
It is safe to say Meta and other Hmds will close the gaps.
Keep in mind most hmd makers are targeting gamers.
Did as they do instead of simply releasing a Qualcomm standalone headset. They did one better. Apple will not be fragmented like PC and Standalone hmds due to pure focus. And even with a very small user base has presumably focused getting ALVR on their platform working in record time.
Which also now they have the interest from enough of the public they are changing gears it seems to make a more consumer friendly headset that will also likely take consumer feedback on the missed.
The sad thing really is how Apple has trumped Varjo with a much better product it seems overal.
It should be interesting to see Apple’s so to speak version of the Aero.
Either way the AVP while has not been as successful as Apple has hoped. It is successful enough to move forward with a lite version vs making a v2 pro this early.
Though the naysayers will continue to attempt to make it look otherwise.
