That’s why I have also designed ‘blinders’ as well as a fully custom facial interface including a ferromagnetic frame (to attach to the AVP) and a TPU gasket. This is a lot more involved on the printing side though and obviously needs to be adapted on a per face basis.
I find I like the OpenFace style a lot more than ‘fully VR’ and using ‘blinders’ that block out stray peripheral light gives me a sweet spot between ‘virtual FOV’ and added ‘Real Life FOV’.
So in essence I use the AVP around 70-80% as an MR/AR device and when I want to be fully immersed, I just turn off the light for those other 20-30%
It’s a tricky time for accessory manufacturers because there isn’t enough of a user base to recoup setup costs, but early mover advantage will be a consideration
Quite welcome. This was the lady who got black eyes from wearing AVP. Which I did find a bit odd. However I have known some fair skinned ppl that bruise very easy.
There’s a super interesting interview with the owner of Telegram by Tucker on X. If you haven’t seen it, it’s really a must watch. This guy, Pavel Durov, is a hero, it’s just such a delight to hear him talk: https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-interview-pavel-durov/
It shows how stories were fabricated by marketing agencies to damage their good name, like “the russians are behind Telegram”, stuff that I also ‘read somewhere’ and always had kept in my mind. Turns out to be utter nonsense… I really think that Meta did something similar there, all those reports about the AVP that make absolutely no sense at all with the weirdest complaints, like you might get bruised, damage your eyes or even kill yourself wearing the AVP, LOL… I would not be surprised if Meta is behind at least some of those. Not saying this particular case is fake, but I find it all extremely suspicious. The AVP is just such a good headset, really, nothing even comes close and then there all those stories with weird complaints … And Zuckerberg is the kind of snake who would do exactly just that, pay a big marketing agency to push stories with tons of complaints about the AVP.
Wouldn’t it conflict entirely with meta’s goals though? I guess some rogue employees maybe, but overall success of the AVP is something meta would really want as if the AVP fails then it really invalidates the whole industry significantly. The AVP has been the best marketing for meta’s XR pursuits to date imo.
This is a yes and no situation. AVP really at it’s price point and more or less restricted platform isn’t a threat to lower priced headsets.
However we do see Meta really hammering on adding or enabling features to sway things back to the meta quest 3 citing it can do much of the same in a similar idea.
With Quest Pro not having the adoption impact as intended. Imagine the next Meta Pro will likely be directly targetting AVP as that was intended user space.
If we look at for example @twack3r 's now disenchanted with Varjo’s the unstable software is giving AVP an edge towards Business/enterprise use. Add a solid sim add and AVP is likely to gain even more traction. Even though this is not meant as a big gaming headset. The next economy model could really shine after the AVP gains a more completed platform suite and features
AVP has a wide number of growing pains but for a new comer in this space is doing quite well if we are being honest
I think we need to wait for Metas Quest Pro 2 to get a reality check. Zucks sounded surprised how average the AVP hardware is. I think Meta has everything in their arsenal to match if not better the AVP and a much reduced price.
Once we have Meta, Apple and Samsung all out to gain or keep market share then things will move on even faster than they have now.
Hopefully we see Samsungs headset soon. I think we’re finally going to see the future VR market with mobile manufacturers becoming dominant and small niche manufacturers slowly disappear. Not that there were many to begin with.
Well into Nay with no VR-1 and Crystal Light about to ship. Supposedly. Lol
Yeah but that’s exactly what I’m saying. He felt to need to make a video bashing the AVP. There’s nothing ‘average’ about the AVP hardware! In fact it’s lonely at the top, it’s really miles ahead of all the others. And Zuck is bashing the hardware, LOL. That’s why I believe he went further than that and hired marketing companies to bash its some more.
It’s sad. Sure, the AVP is expensive, but damn, you do get something for it. I also do believe a company like Meta COULD do it as good of course, they have the money and the research capabilities. But other than the big players, I’m not so sure. If you see how they’re struggling already right now to get their current hardware in a decent shape …
I think Zucks was looking at the FOV and lack of controllers. He mentioned Apple were constrained by the same physics when it comes to lens design and they hadn’t came out with some magic solution.
All the YouTube hype over AVP is over and we see many videos where AVP is sitting on shelves while games come back as the core use case.
AVP without controllers was a monumental mistake and Tim Cook should be ashamed of himself.
Well everytime hardware is expensive you seem to hate it. Which I can understand, the thing IS way too expensive to ever become really popular. But the hardware is really miles ahead of the competition. I’m sure you’ll agree when you try it. Definitely do book a demo at your apple store, although god knows when apple will roll it out to europe, seems to take ages.
Well this imho is a yes and no. Other than a few things like using new Micro Oleds & lenses. The Hardware is still pretty “average” what is ahead is the focused software making it work. So much so that Zuck has had to prove the Quest 3 is capable of many of the features in AVP is not really new.
Both Meta and Microsoft have failed in earlier days to gain adoption of higher features due to lack of proper focus in demonstrating some of the concepts that AVP is getting praised for.
In theory Varjo should be leading the crowd in much of things. But due to endless early adopter beta mindset there losing ground. Businesses want stability and is more known for “polished” release of software and updates.
Even pimax if they took time to have polished stable releases that didn’t break things or introduce bugs that would be caught with using branch releases would do much better.
Unfortunately many companies have adopted public testing with apologies for releasing seemingly untested product code.
Yeah, because I don’t make money from it. I guess YTers do and productivity users do so the 4k kinda pays for itself. But when you’re just using it to watch movies 4k gets you a decent TV or Projector. For gaming its kinda sucks without controllers and I’m scratching my head trying to think of what else I would do with it.
I would struggle to get 4ks use out of it before its successor came along. I would rather have the BSB save 3k and put that towards the next big upgrade or surprise HMD that came from nowhere.
I dont like the fact Apple put the compute in the headset I think that was a bad idea. If they were going to have a seperate battery the compute could of been attached to that and the HMD would of been half the price. Either the HMD or the Compute could of been upgraded seperately. I’m hoping Steam Deck 2 supports the BSB as that would be a huge selling point.
As a peice of standalone technology though I totally agree with you @Djonko and everyone else thats tried it, the AVP is fantastic. The lenses, passthrough, eye detection, interaction, build quality all top notch.
Honestly I don’t even care if it’s the hardware, the lenses and/or the software stack. What I do care about is that the AVP has the best VR/AR quality that you can currently get, and even by quite a leap. The image just is super crisp, the passthrough is better than anything else out there, the colors are OLED awesome, the sound is the best out there and the 3d image is just super stable and convincing and there’s not any latency at all to notice… No other manufacturer has even come close and comparing it to the Q3 quality is even laughable in my opinion. It beats the Q3 big time and Zuck should tone it down until he has something comparable. The AVP really makes the Q3 feel like a toy. The only slight downside is that it’s not as lightweight as the BSB, but with a simple strap it’s really comfy at least for me, actually even better than the Q3.
Now what @Atmos says, the use cases, that’s of course a different aspect and I will definitely agree there that I hate that Apple closed it down so much, it would have been even way more fun to use if we could have native steamVR
I mean really WTF !!! Did they even put on both headsets themselves?? Really not sure what went wrong here but this article is really just plain nonsense. It again make me really suspicious that something else is going on here. I mean ANYONE who will put on the AVP and Q3 themselves will immediately see that there’s no comparison and the AVP look way cleaner, crisper, better than the Q3. There’s no way I’m going to watch a movie on my Q3 on netflix, it just looks crap. On my AVP it looks as good as my high end TV. Same as sharing a desktop, no way I’m going to work on my Q3, but on my AVP I could easily work.
Anyway I see in the comments on Karl’s website somebody who says the same and gets called ‘a fanboy’. I actually start to feel like one myself LOL defending Apple. While I don’t even like the company, in fact, I hate most tech companies and Apple is even one of the worst in my book. But I just hate to see all those ‘experts’ making ridiculous claims about how the Q3 is pretty much as good as the AVP LOL. I probably should just let it go and enjoy my AVP instead, just like @twack3r LOL
is more known for “polished” release of software and updates.