# VR News for 2025

**URL:** <https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827>\
**Category:** HMD Discussion\
**Created:** [January 11, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827 "2025-01-11T23:21:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 12

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**Author:** ![Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Atmos)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/222 "2025-05-12T20:44:39Z")

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I’m not sure why pimax would show something so early. A headset with no IPD adjustment that makes you crosseyed?

Never ever announce a headset until it starts mass production.

I’m not sure why Sony can’t release a high end headset.

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**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/223 "2025-05-13T13:52:16Z")

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Because they always do.

I think it’s cool they invited two of the OG musketeers for a first ‘eyes-on’.

Give it 12-18 months and this might become interesting.

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**Author:** ![SmallBaguette](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/smallbaguette/32/24247_2.png) [@SmallBaguette](https://forum.openmr.com/u/SmallBaguette)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/224 "2025-05-13T15:00:43Z")

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> [@Atmos](#):
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> I’m not sure why Sony can’t release a high end headset.

That’s what their XYN headset is: [Hands-On With Sony's Standalone XR Headset, XYN](https://www.uploadvr.com/hands-on-sony-xyn-headset-ces-2025/)

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**Author:** ![Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Atmos)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/225 "2025-05-13T15:05:32Z")

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> [@SmallBaguette](#):
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> That’s what their XYN headset is:

But that’s over 4k and developers only.

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**Author:** ![Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Atmos)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/226 "2025-05-13T15:19:23Z")

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I know I doom Pimax but I actually like the Dream Air and Dream Air SE. It’s ticking a lot of the boxes I’ve been wishing Pimax would address the size of their headsets for years and finally they’ve done it.

This completely blows the Crystal Super out of the water.

But like all things time moves on and when the Dream Air comes to market what will other manufacturers bring to the table.

Big Screen look like they’re firing on all cylinders and a 4k version wouldn’t be out of the question.

Tariffs could cripple Pimax sales even at 30%.

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**Author:** ![Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/heliosurge/32/28073_2.png) [@Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Heliosurge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/227 "2025-05-13T16:18:45Z")

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The cheaper models are a good idea for the Dream Air. However they should add a mount for a SteamVR tracker for the Slam models.

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**Author:** ![Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Djonko)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/228 "2025-05-14T01:37:39Z")

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> **[Samsung Shows Off OLED Tech for Virtual Reality at 5,000 Pixels Per Inch](https://www.pcmag.com/news/samsung-shows-off-oled-tech-for-virtual-reality-at-5000-pixels-per-inch)**
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> Apple's Vision Pro currently displays 3,386ppi, so Samsung's RGB OLED on Silicon (OLEDoS) tech promises to push the boundaries of VR headsets with even more lifelike visuals.

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**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:13am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/229 "2025-05-14T08:13:47Z")

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Interesting specs, terrible article, convoluting micoOLED with OLEDoS and describing either as if they weren’t complimentary. The shown specs clearly show that the Samsung panel obviously is a microOLED panel, so the mention of LG’s tech in a juxtaposition makes 0 sense.

What is interesting besides the ppi is the significant uplift in brightness. Given pancake lenses currently block around 90% of brightness emitted by the panel, 1,500-2,000 nits reaching our eye-balls seems promising.

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**Author:** ![risa2000](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@risa2000](https://forum.openmr.com/u/risa2000)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/230 "2025-05-14T12:49:54Z")

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The article is horrible.

Does anyone know what are the specs of the displays? Dimensions, resolutions, pentile/rgb, etc.?

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**Author:** ![Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Atmos)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/231 "2025-05-14T15:45:34Z")

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Sony 2560x2560 for Dream Air SE  
Sony 3552x3840 for Dream Air

It’s the same panel as AVP.

 ![IMG_2662](https://community.openmr.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/e/1e5f56abd5b93de63ca20d0125cd3903a7637b38.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Djonko)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/232 "2025-05-14T18:15:45Z")

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Here’s the info from Samsung themselves:

> **[Samsung Display Unveils Advanced R&D Achievements at Display Week 2025](https://global.samsungdisplay.com/31366)**
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> Samsung Display to take part in Display Week 2025, hosted by the Society for Information Display (SID)Company to display next generation display technologies including its significantly enhanced Electroluminescence Quantum Dot (EL-QD) prototypes,...

So it’s RGB and is an 1.4" panel. According to an online PPI calculator that means roughly 5k\*5k resolution which is damn exiting. Especially since they’re planning to start mass producing them this year already.

It seems we don’t have to wait too long anymore to achieve real human vision PPD in VR. And after that, I guess manufacturers don’t have a choice anymore but to improve FOV, haha.

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**Author:** ![risa2000](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@risa2000](https://forum.openmr.com/u/risa2000)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/233 "2025-05-14T20:01:57Z")

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The original Samsung announcement seems to be equally bad 🙄 .  
I mean, 1.4" is diagonal, width, height, circumference,…?  
What is the aspect ratio?  
The PPI is calculated how? Plus, if it is really for XR headset, then the PPI is irrelevant. What will matter will be PPD. From how the announcement is written, it almost feel like they do not want to tell even one thing clearly. They could write 1"x1" panel, 5k x 5k pixels.  
Anyway, once they start to sell them, we will know.

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**Author:** ![Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Djonko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/234 "2025-05-15T00:54:08Z")

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Yeah it’s frustrating that they don’t just share the resolution, I do believe it’s around 5k\*5k but of course you’re right, we can’t know for sure. Indeed kinda feels like they don’t want us to know.

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**Author:** ![Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@Djonko](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Djonko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/235 "2025-05-15T00:56:32Z")

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Actually here’s the info: [https://x.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1922755087396397373](https://x.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1922755087396397373)

so RGB 6000x4500 that’s pretty damn impressive!! Sounds like we’ll have headsets with that per-eye resolution next year daaaamn. Now where’s my NVIDIA 7090 to drive that, LOL

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**Author:** ![risa2000](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@risa2000](https://forum.openmr.com/u/risa2000)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/236 "2025-05-15T10:51:30Z")

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Good catch! Indeed, this looks impressive.

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**Author:** ![Axacuatl](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Axacuatl](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Axacuatl)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/237 "2025-05-15T13:46:04Z")

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> [@Atmos](#):
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> This completely blows the Crystal Super out of the water.

Depends on your preferences - the main reason for me considering the Super is its wider FoV which separates it from the current crop of microOLED headsets. The Dream headsets both have standard/sub-standard FoV so I would be missing something - it comes down to a trade-off between weight/size and FoV, and there is no clear winner for me (other than just sticking to my Quest 3 because at least it is wireless and I’d rather wait to spend 2k on a new headset when it really satisfies all of my (reasonable) desires, of which a wider FoV definitely is big one!).

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**Author:** ![SmallBaguette](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/smallbaguette/32/24247_2.png) [@SmallBaguette](https://forum.openmr.com/u/SmallBaguette)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/238 "2025-05-15T14:08:10Z")

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I don’t believe it’s developers only. I forget the specific naming convention but they originally announced the enterprise only headset, and then later announced the XYN headset (which is the exact same but not restricted to enterprise only).

Honestly, they have been very unclear about it and the reps at CES themselves seem confused lol

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**Author:** ![SmallBaguette](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/smallbaguette/32/24247_2.png) [@SmallBaguette](https://forum.openmr.com/u/SmallBaguette)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/239 "2025-05-15T14:08:42Z")

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> [@Atmos](#):
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> Sony 2560x2560 for Dream Air SE

SE is the SeeYa panel locked to 75hz native, same as Bigscreen Beyond.

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**Author:** ![Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Atmos)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/240 "2025-05-19T11:25:18Z")

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I really wish Martin would get a reality check.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/IYy6e4JtOK0/maxresdefault.jpg "Pimax Dream Air – MRTV Asks What YOU Really Want To Know (Unfiltered Interview)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYy6e4JtOK0)

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**Author:** ![Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Atmos](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Atmos)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vr-news-for-2025/41827/241 "2025-05-19T11:31:44Z")

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The Dream Air is a Prototype in May. No motorized IPD, no controllers, no self adjust strap, no tracking. Yet Martin says he thinks its all going to be ready in 3 months.

Even when Seb tries to slap him into line he keeps up the pretence. Why doesnt he just Dream Air might be released some time this year?

It would make better business sense to tell people Pimax Super is 2025 go buy, don’t wait for Dream Air.

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