# Vive Facial tracker - Pimax Support?

**URL:** <https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215>\
**Category:** Enhancements\
**Tags:** mod\
**Created:** [March 11, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215 "2021-03-11T09:18:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/intet/32/22371_2.png) [@Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Intet)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/1 "2021-03-11T09:18:58Z")

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The Vive Facial tracker just released and it looks amazing!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/l_l4_aoiVAw/maxresdefault.jpg "Vive Facial Tracker showcase in Neos VR") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_l4_aoiVAw)

> **[VIVE Facial Tracker | VIVE European Union](https://www.vive.com/eu/accessory/facial-tracker/)**
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> VIVE Facial Tracker. Express more than words in VR. Capture true-to-life facial expressions and realistic mouth movement for an immersive experience.

@Pimax Could we possibly look forward to a bracket that makes it fit to the Pimax? The connection of the Facial tracker is just USB C and could easily be plugged into the Pimax.  
I really want this for VRC! This would definitely make me buy the eye tracker module too.

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**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/2 "2021-03-11T10:10:25Z")

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Pimax can develop whatever they want, but in their infinite wisdom HTC have decided to only make the face tracker compatible with their Vive Pro.

So it absoutely isn’t just another USB device, it is specifically locked to their enterprise product.

In turn it isn’t even supported by their B2C Cosmos products and absolutely not supported to work with other manufacturer’s products, including Index, Pimax etc. Hell, it isn’t even supported for the OG Vive.

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**Author:** ![Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/intet/32/22371_2.png) [@Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Intet)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/3 "2021-03-11T10:54:40Z")

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That is sad to hear. From where do you have the information that it is not working by plugging it into any old USB C ?

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**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/4 "2021-03-11T11:16:23Z")

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> **[HTC Announces Face-tracker for Vive Pro and Vive Tracker 3.0, Launching This...](https://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-facial-tracker-3-0-announcement-release-date-price/)**
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> HTC today announced two new VR accessories: a consumer version of its face-tracker and a new version of the Vive Tracker which is said to bring a large jump in battery life alongside being smaller. Both accessories are priced at $130 and will launch...

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**Author:** ![Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/intet/32/22371_2.png) [@Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Intet)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/5 "2021-03-11T11:23:06Z")

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I don’t see any info in this article which says it would not work with other headsets.

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**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/6 "2021-03-11T11:25:03Z")

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Check the HTC SDK part. HTC are going the proprietary way, just as they did for their wireless adapter.

The topic has been discussed on r/vive yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/pimel/32/20025_2.png) [@Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Pimel)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/7 "2021-03-11T13:43:26Z")

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Oh I almost bought this today

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**Author:** ![Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/intet/32/22371_2.png) [@Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Intet)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/8 "2021-03-15T11:45:04Z")

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Someone on twitter confirmed that the Vive Facial tracker works independently.

[https://twitter.com/\_karukaru\_/status/1371096363207778305?s=21](https://twitter.com/_karukaru_/status/1371096363207778305?s=21)

There’s also some talk that the gopro mount works for it. I should get both today, I‘ll update tonight if everything works. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Korgen)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/9 "2021-03-15T18:21:59Z")

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Pimax is not able to make their own modules compatible with their headsets, and you ask them to support an htc device ?

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**Author:** ![Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/intet/32/22371_2.png) [@Intet](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Intet)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/10 "2021-03-15T20:32:35Z")

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This has not much to do with Pimax. This is all about if the Vive Facial tracker checks if it is plugged into the Vive pro or not.

Unfortunately the facial tracker did not arrive today as stated in the tracking estimate. I‘ll update tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Korgen)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/11 "2021-03-15T23:33:02Z")

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It does ! Pimax didn’t include an internal usb hub that can detect their own products, so I wonder how it could detect an HTC device…

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**Author:** ![drowhunter](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/drowhunter/32/16109_2.png) [@drowhunter](https://forum.openmr.com/u/drowhunter)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/12 "2021-03-15T23:36:40Z")

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Well it looks like it works with any headset. Unofficial pimax facial tracking module. 😀

Which is funny because had Pimax actually promised us a facial tracker we likely would be waiting until 2023 and it probably wouldnt work.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NbGQ3Ry2_TY/maxresdefault.jpg "VR Face Tracking On The Quest! HTC Vive Lip Tracker Works On Other Headsets & It's Amazing!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbGQ3Ry2_TY)

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**Author:** ![Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/pimel/32/20025_2.png) [@Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Pimel)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/13 "2021-03-16T09:38:11Z")

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Great, just ordered mine. Not that I have a way to mount it to my Pimax, nor do I spend much if any time in VR chat rooms but gotta have shiny thingy

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**Author:** ![va-risT](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@va-risT](https://forum.openmr.com/u/va-risT)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/14 "2021-03-16T22:00:17Z")

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Hello, i tried today to run the Facial Tracker on my 8k+.

At first i taked off the Comfort Kit and was very lucky, the Cable fits !  
BUT, the USB-C port inside the Pimax does not work for the Facial Tracker. I took off the Motion Leap Tracker and tryed the inside port again with no good results. The USB-C Port under the Pimax works for the Facial Tracker but you have the Problem that the Cable is infront of the Camera and you can only use Leap Motion or The Facial Tracker but not both .

Would be great when a Firmware Update can fix the Problem of the inside Port not working for it.

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**Author:** ![Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Korgen)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/15 "2021-03-16T22:33:07Z")

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What a surprise ! I’d never expect this 🤔  
Irony apart, I’m just curious : don’t the facial tracker obstruct hand tracking cameras (without the cable thing) ?

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**Author:** ![Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/pimel/32/20025_2.png) [@Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Pimel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/16 "2021-03-17T13:34:44Z")

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I tried my Facial Tracker on Pimax 8KX today. The camera is not being detected on mine. It only has the bottom USB port so can’t check a different port.

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**Author:** ![MR-Alex](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/mr-alex/32/22548_2.png) [@MR-Alex](https://forum.openmr.com/u/MR-Alex)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/17 "2021-03-17T13:46:29Z")

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Other USB 3.0 devices do work on the port?

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**Author:** ![Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/pimel/32/20025_2.png) [@Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Pimel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/18 "2021-03-17T13:56:38Z")

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Don’t know, I don’t own any devices with such a connector. Well that’s not true, the Pimax eye tracker but I will check later.

(This is a RMA headset so I have not checked the port with the eye tracker yet on this headset)

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**Author:** ![Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/pimel/32/20025_2.png) [@Pimel](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Pimel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/19 "2021-03-17T15:45:09Z")

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Ok this sucks.

My experience with my 8KX and Facial Tracker.

- Facial Tracker gets recognized when plugged directly into pc. Green LED on FT lights up and driver gets installed.

- Pimax Eye Tracker gets recognized when plugged into 8KX.

- Facial Tracker does nothing when plugged into 8KX.

What a bummer, is this a USB 2.0 problem maybe?

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**Author:** ![Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@Korgen](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Korgen)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/vive-facial-tracker-pimax-support/35215/20 "2021-03-17T17:34:34Z")

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Same problem with 5k+ and Hand Tracking. Pimax included a bad cheap usb.

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