# The Mysticle - The Most INSANE VR Headset I Ever Used! **URL:** \ **Category:** P2: 8kX\ **Tags:** youtube, review\ **Created:** [April 29, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915 "2021-04-29T10:01:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/drwilken/32/26997_2.png) [@DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/u/DrWilken)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/1 "2021-04-29T10:01:22Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/naj8_IegQLc/maxresdefault.jpg "The Most INSANE VR Headset I Ever Used!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naj8_IegQLc) ---
**Author:** ![Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/heliosurge/32/28073_2.png) [@Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Heliosurge)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 11:03am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/2 "2021-04-29T11:03:35Z")
Nice review. Though is unaware of the top usb port being blocked. As he is using an Amd gpu it would be great to get more details on game settings and performance. Especially since in his setup I believe he said 5700xt opposed to a 6000 series gpu. ---
**Author:** ![DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/drwilken/32/26997_2.png) [@DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/u/DrWilken)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/3 "2021-04-29T11:07:51Z")
I also commented about the 90Hz firmware šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![saraki](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/saraki/32/22745_2.png) [@saraki](https://forum.openmr.com/u/saraki)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/4 "2021-04-29T13:02:45Z")
A nicely done review. Subscribed! šŸ‘ ---
**Author:** ![dogbite](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/dogbite/32/1793_2.png) [@dogbite](https://forum.openmr.com/u/dogbite)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/5 "2021-04-29T13:42:06Z")
The one thing he got wrong was saying you need to have PTool running for it to work. While you do need to launch Pitool to change settings before launching SVR, you donā€™t need to run it to play Steam games at settings previously picked up by the Steam compositor if those settings are still valid for what you are going to play next. ie: I run most everything at PT 1.5 Normal 144Hz and only run PT to change PP setting mostly, when playing a game requiring it. In this respect, I very seldom launch PT. Mostly use it for Oculus games. Otherwise, I just launch SVR. ---
**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/6 "2021-04-29T14:01:07Z")
Sure, but you do have PiTool services running in the background as that is the way you have set up your specific PiTool installation. No PiTool services, no hand-off to SteamVR, no HMD found. When I donā€™t run PiTool, I donā€™t have services running. And afaik that is the case for the majority of Pimax user setups. ---
**Author:** ![dogbite](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/dogbite/32/1793_2.png) [@dogbite](https://forum.openmr.com/u/dogbite)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/7 "2021-04-29T14:08:08Z")
Wasnā€™t saying Pimax services donā€™t need to start which of course they run at boot, only that PT does not need to be started unless you wish to change settings. SVR will use the last settings given to it the last time PT was run before it was launched. ---
**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/8 "2021-04-29T14:15:28Z")
> [@dogbite](#): > > which of course they run at boot They donā€™t. You can set them up to run at boot. ---
**Author:** ![tonka](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9f8e36/32.png) [@tonka](https://forum.openmr.com/u/tonka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/9 "2021-04-29T14:20:37Z")
I have PiTool 268 with firmware 271 on my 8K+ and they have changed it. Before I didnā€™t have to have PiTool open to use the headset, now it will only connect if I open PiTool and if I close PiTool the headset and SteamVR disconnect. ---
**Author:** ![dogbite](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/dogbite/32/1793_2.png) [@dogbite](https://forum.openmr.com/u/dogbite)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/10 "2021-04-29T14:36:51Z")
Interesting. I will stay with PT 261 then. ---
**Author:** ![Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/heliosurge/32/28073_2.png) [@Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Heliosurge)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/11 "2021-04-29T16:22:28Z")
The services are the driver not pitool. Otherwise closing pitool would kill the pi servers. For example you donā€™t need Nvidia or Amdā€™s gpu suite to use the vendor driver. ---
**Author:** ![Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/heliosurge/32/28073_2.png) [@Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Heliosurge)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/12 "2021-04-29T16:24:10Z")
Will need to check that out thanks was not aware of that change ---
**Author:** ![twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@twack3r](https://forum.openmr.com/u/twack3r)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/13 "2021-04-29T16:25:54Z")
> [@Heliosurge](#): > > Otherwise closing pitool would kill the pi servers. It does. This is now the standard behaviour to any new user that installs the curent version of PiTool. ---
**Author:** ![Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/heliosurge/32/28073_2.png) [@Heliosurge](https://forum.openmr.com/u/Heliosurge)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/14 "2021-04-29T18:56:18Z")
Still need to test this for myself. As it was usually quite the task to end the 3 processes. ---
**Author:** ![DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/drwilken/32/26997_2.png) [@DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/u/DrWilken)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/15 "2021-04-29T19:18:04Z")
I can confirm. I found out recently when I tried flashing the firmware manually using DFU.exe (ā€œservice not runningā€) after flashing in PiTool got stuckā€¦ šŸ¤£ Iā€™ve recovered from stuck upgrades more times than Iā€™ve had smooth upgrades. Never really been a big problem though. Just donā€™t be afraid of trying the different methods. I doubt anyone has ever gotten their headset ā€œbrickedā€ (i.e. dead/non-working/as a brick)ā€¦ šŸ˜‰ One time when I had issues with it I tried a different port: [https://community.openmr.ai/t/solved-firmware-updating-using-dfu-exe-on-8kx-crashes-at-98-with-irql-not-less-or-equal/31826](https://community.openmr.ai/t/solved-firmware-updating-using-dfu-exe-on-8kx-crashes-at-98-with-irql-not-less-or-equal/31826) Another time, I used a different tool: [https://community.openmr.ai/t/pitool-1-0-2-086/32958/138?u=drwilken](https://community.openmr.ai/t/pitool-1-0-2-086/32958/138?u=drwilken) ---
**Author:** ![PimaxQuorra](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/pimaxquorra/32/15692_2.png) [@PimaxQuorra](https://forum.openmr.com/u/PimaxQuorra)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/16 "2021-04-29T20:10:51Z")
Hello, Well done sir! Itā€™s a great review and could we share your video on other platform? šŸ¤© šŸ¤© šŸ¤© Sincerely. ---
**Author:** ![DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/drwilken/32/26997_2.png) [@DrWilken](https://forum.openmr.com/u/DrWilken)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/17 "2021-04-29T21:23:58Z")
Iā€™m not the authorā€¦ šŸ˜‰ Since You (Pimax) sent him a headset for review I would think You know him thoughā€¦ šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![drowhunter](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/drowhunter/32/16109_2.png) [@drowhunter](https://forum.openmr.com/u/drowhunter)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/18 "2021-04-30T04:18:10Z")
Nice, but I already posted this 3 days ago šŸ™‚ Edit: I just merged mine into yours since yourā€™s gained more traction. šŸ‘ [https://community.openmr.ai/t/the-mysticle-glowing-pimax-8kx-review/35889](https://community.openmr.ai/t/the-mysticle-glowing-pimax-8kx-review/35889) ---
**Author:** ![drowhunter](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/drowhunter/32/16109_2.png) [@drowhunter](https://forum.openmr.com/u/drowhunter)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/19 "2021-04-27T02:42:34Z")
Wow another huge VR youtuber with an excellent review. Good Job Pimax. Check out these comments. Im surprised he has no issues rocking that AMD GPU. ![Screenshot_20210426-224933_YouTube](https://community.openmr.ai/uploads/default/original/3X/7/6/7671407d0990888f4e1df9aaac9c6650709940f3.jpeg) The fact that he not only got a review sample but turned around and said Pimax ā€œTake my moneyā€ Kind of weird he skipped over Pimax Experience. ---
**Author:** ![hammerhead\_gal](https://forum.openmr.com/user_avatar/forum.openmr.com/hammerhead_gal/32/24859_2.png) [@hammerhead\_gal](https://forum.openmr.com/u/hammerhead_gal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915/20 "2021-04-28T01:34:09Z")
Iā€™m looking forward to a detailed review of in-game performance [Next page](https://forum.openmr.com/t/the-mysticle-the-most-insane-vr-headset-i-ever-used/35915.md?page=2)