The Xtal is also very large & weighs over 700g. Lol
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It couldnt be more obvious Pimax are at the end of the line for their current design and they said themselves any further improvements will ne done with accessories. The testers are distancing themselves now and even sweviver has gone quiet. All his hype was focused on game compatiblity and probably expected they would get the lenses right before launch. If they could start the whole process again they would probably do things differently but itâs too late for that now. Letâs just hope they can polish the experience with improved software features
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SweViver will be back he just beem busy lately.
The Lenses are interesting as @deletedpimaxrep1 mentioned prior to StarVR One release that the team is looking into using Eyetracking for Dynamic Distortion correction. Seems Pimax & StarVR are on the same page. Though this means the consumer release should have Eyetracking modul as standard & accomodate the frame adapters.
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I donât post much, but Iâm somewhat concerned after watching Sebastianâs video. The part about not wanting to give a limited review.
My Take / Reading between the linesâŚ
Even with all the progress made there is at least 1 if not more significant issues still unresolved. Issues that he feels we really should know about. It seems heâs afraid that the demos may be such that this / these significant issues will not be apparent, and therefore still obscured by the NDA. If these limited demos are OK, then he will be trapped, and can not tell the truth, putting him in a bad position as to what to say.
I want to know about these remaining issues!!! 
Lift the NDA like you promised your backers you would do!
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That sounds good in theory but do they have the skills to pull that off?
The thought of Pimax + Eyetracking makes me cringe 
Would rather they get the basics right
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The simple truth imho is Sebastian is being over dramatic.
If pimax does limited demos that donât. Show sn issue that was observed only obvious in certain titles. There wouldnât be anything stopping him from saying something like:
âWhat is demoed looks good, but to be able to evaluate it better we need to see games like⌠& to give a proper full evaluation I need more hands on time. Thus I canât reccommend getting the m2 at this time.â
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Well remember Aglass is not Pimax; do it would be a joint project I would presume. 
EDiT
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I think, if Pimax shows up with only limited demos and/or environment, then everyone will understand that no tester will be willing to make any statement about M2 and no one will blame them for that. The worst case is that M2 is officially released without the green light from the testers, but then all tester will be able to review it anyway (as any other regular guy who will have it) and using their prior intimate knowledge of M1 they will be able to point out any major issue which was not fixed in M2. So we will eventually know all the issues one way or the other, the only question is, when will it happen, and this depends only on Pimax.
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Thing I get confused about, Sebastian claiming that Pimax is probably going to test Skyrim, and then he is claiming that he would not be able to see if there are still some problems, without some kind of specific tools. It doesnât add up. I say that if in title like Skyrim, after one hour of testing, knowing where to look, someone could not see any problems - then HMD is good to go. Even if with some specific testing tools some kind of geometric distortions could be detected, if you canât see it in games, why should anyone care?
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If there are quite a few games that look good and run well on the 8k doesnât that imply the hardware is solid and most other games will be improved with software updates and faster GPUâs .
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I havenât had the time to watch his video, but if that is the case, then I guess we might, just might, have the issue of tech savvy nerd vs. simple user going on. As you say, if the issue doesnât get apparent in a variety of the most important games (hence the importance to demo all of the usual suspects), then the issue may be something which is not ideal but probably not that important to the majority of simple VR users like me.
But if they only hand-pick those games, even if a Skyrim was part of them, while leaving other important games out because they know that with these other games the use of the M2 is substantially impacted for some reason, then itâs time to call Houston and tell them that we have a problem. At least if the backer feedback from the demoâs is then supposed to be used as the green light instead of the beta testersâ approval.
We will only learn in a couple of months what exactly was the case. I recall a video from Sebastian where he was positioning himself as being super-critical with the M1 on behalf of the backers, trying to convince people that although he is a Youtuber, they shouldnât think that he would not take his role seriously. Possibly he and others got carried away with that spirit and tried to push for the perfect headset which even the big brands have not been able to give us (just take the awful Vive Pro lenses, if we are talking about lens issues). That of course may, if viewed from a distance, be a bit unfair and the guys may have gotten entangled a bit in their role play. But unfortunately that is just one possible scenario, and there are uglier onesâŚ
But okay, the backer demo if performed with serious games would already give us a lot of valuable feedback. Letâs wait and see.
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Truth need to see the m2 to know with the right games demoed that are of real interest to backers & not âcandy crushâ type titles.
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Skyrim is an open world with very diverse scenery. It is very demanding VR title, one of the mos demanding in the image quality department and one of the best (if not the very best) overall VR titles out there.Therefore if HMD is good enough to display diverse open world without any notifiable issues - it must be good, I think.
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Yes Pimax should tell us what games they are going to have at the meet so backers can decide wether to to spend there time and money to go there. And we need that information soon.
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Agreed if folks are wanting to spend money to travel to the demo it should be clear the titles demoed should be of verified preference.
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Damn I just looked it up. 770 gram EXCLUDING the head strap. The head mount itself weighs 440 gram, so thatâs 1.2 kg total !!!
Hi @Heliosurge, thanks for your interesting analysis and your exciting simple truth conclusion!
The actual simple truth in fact is that I am not comfortable to be bound by NDA while backers hope for a full and fair assessment of the M2 of a trusted tester, which I wonât be able to give in this controlled environment, looking at the M2 for the very first time. And even if I wanted to give backers a more complete picture, taking my 2 month testing experience into account, I could not do so, again because of the NDA.
The fact though is that probably lots of backers will look at what I, @VoodooDE, @SweViver and the other testers have to say when making their decision if they should go for the M2 early. They expect something, that I cannot provide with the current setup. This and the fact that I donât quite agree with the shift of testers giving green light vs. backers giving green light, makes me quite uncomfortable.
In my task as tester I feel obligated to backers and not towards Pimax. And I could service backers most by giving them a thorough review of the M2 from home instead of reporting from a controlled meetup session.
Sincerely, Sebastian
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It is my opinion that Pimax should lift the NDA on the M1 right NOW so that everything is on the table, and people will be surprised positively by the M2.
Some people feel that @mixedrealityTV is being overly critical or worrying, but I get where he is coming from.
We do not know the conditions under which M2 will be shown, what games, whag PC, etc.
I believe that Pimax is worrying too much about PR hype. If Oculus could survive the myriad issues of DK1 and 2 being out and open, Pimax shouldnt be worried about letting M1 users talk before the M2 is shown.
PLEASE Pimax, lift the NDA on M1. Your backers are VR enthusiasts. If there are any issues with the device, it would be infinitely better to let your testers give people their honest perspective.
@deletedpimaxrep1 please tell the company to lift the NDA
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Yes, please lift the NDA!
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If you look at the update the pressure is from business partners that are apparently âokayâ with what i would hope would be m2 demoes they"ve seen. But with Backerâs First, they are honoring this part of Kickstarter Promises. Essentially this could be look at as an âearly adopterâ depending on how the m2 performs.
If testers & backers disapprove; then business partners start receiving their orders of which might be sales vs backerâs pledges.
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