Your Right in that the Aero is not designed with a standalone feature and does not have controllers.
Which makes the Crystal an upgraded Aero competitor with more features and an option to use higher ppd lenses with lense swap out mmmand priced much lower as a complete VR system.
The Vive Focus 3 is not a good comparison as a competitor as it has considerably lower ppd.
So yes Aero is the target space.
If the person is cost conscience and on a budget? Vive Focus. If the person is a hard core simmer snd the like with a high budget then the Crystal. For these products 2 very different markets even though some features overlap.
True of any product. Next Year’s Ford Mustang is not competing with anyone until release. But yet it is already competing for consumer’s eye whom want the next mustang over a Chevy. cobalt.
What if Varjo drops the Aero price to £1300? What if HTC brings out Focus 4 with 4k panels and pancake lenses? What if Valve release the Index 2?
Crystal is still a prototype and 9 out of 10 features are what ifs. Lenses, cable, WiFi, controllers, audio, comfort, store, battery life, eye tracking v off the shelf QLED.
It down to Pimax to bring a rival to already established products it’s not a case of Aero and Focus 3 being a rival to a unreleased headset. Until it’s released there is no Crystal.
why do you think the pimax roadshows have had an aero and a crystal side by side for comparison? there’s no focus 3 there lol!
why do you think many user feedbacks have been saying it’s a choice between an aero and a crystal when it comes to their next purchase? literally no one has said they are buying an crystal or focus 3 lol!
so “20 people” are wrong and you are right? if you truly believe this then you have no insight.
Hehe yeah literally the only one talking about the focus 3 is atmos. And I disagree that HTC has a good name a lot or people, including me, think HTC has made bad headsets ever since their first one. No one cares about the focus 3. Let it go atmos
What if I find a Djinn Lamp? What if doesn’ t become anything unless it becomes something. The Crystal may need work but it is coming and the other What ifs are nowhere in sight at this time.
Much like the idea Vrgineers had proposed making a consumer Xtal model that never moved Forward. VRgineers did indeed go and build there own 8k Xtal after trying Pimax’s 8kX and Marek was impressed by the 8kX. So pimax is indeed influencing flow.
Much like I disagree with @mmorselli thinking Pimax can only Survive making $2000 hmds. When it is proven otherwise the Artisan and 5k models would not have been there Best Sellers. Pimax high priced hmds are much lower than the much Higher priced Enthusiast hmds that more Target commercial Enterprise markets like Varjo and Vrgineers. Whom due to planned low volume production need a much higher price and even for there top models want a Subscription unless you pay even more up front.
Well tbh we wouldn’t need to if pimax doesn’t take months more to complete and release the Crystal & of course the 12k. Both of Which atm are extremely unlikely before the end of December. Even if the Crystal Releases before the end of December it is very unlikely any will be in hands of a consumer before next year.
That’s easy. It is because pimax knows the Crystal anf Aero would be blown away by the Vive Focus. Neither of these 2 headsets would even compare well against Google Cardboard.
I briefly had the thought earlier that Atmos actually works for Pimax. He has the difficult task of preparing us for actual, possible and possible, albeit improbable, errors. A very perfidious form of brainwashing, so to speak.
But then I woke up again. Atmos, get out of my daydreams!
@Heliosurge
Hey, mate. Can you, please, do something about these roadshow-threads. I thought the purpose of them to be for impressions from actual visitors. Every time I check the computer it’ll be like “oh, cool, 15 new posts, I wonder what they thought about the crystal” But, noooo, pretty much everyone of these first, second, third and forth stop-threads are bombarded by the same forum regulars that just regurgitate their guesstimations on everyone of them. It’s pretty fkn annoying.
The short version: Please make a dedicated impressions-thread.
Nah he is just a pimax fan that adds needed contrast and distraction til pimax finally releases there all to often late products due to them still underestimating Development time.
Pimax is not one to be fashionably late with there projections. There more often just late. However when they do finally release something(good) it is more often that good but still needs some polish. But like other companies they do release somethings like the ET long before it ever should hsve been
I can try. but our pimax reps need to also make this easier by not posting Several topics for the same Roadshow stop.
I will see if zi can make sometime to organize maybe a closed megathread of just quoted impressions. As long as a Topic is open ppl will post and with The Crystal not released as stated it was at the end of Sept People will mildly veer off.
Best would have been Pimax Rep to have created the core topic in Announcements with a linked Discussion Topic. Then simply adding a review when posted to the Announcement category for easy uncluttered reading.
If you can do me a base favor and give me links to the is 3 main discussion topics for the EU and when I have some free time will try to sort it. Any help to particular impression posts would be Awesome. A pm can work.
The controller tracking method in no way dictates whether a headset is PCVR or not. Are WMR and Rift S not PCVR headsets?
Focus 3 is an enterprise standalone headset that can also do non-native PCVR, Crystal is a consumer PCVR headset that can do standalone as an afterthought (…someday).
What’s your point? That better headsets might come out later with better feature sets and/or price? That’s always the way. Like you’d never buy anything, especially in a fast moving hardware space like this, if you’re hanging onto what the next thing is.
Well…yeah? That’s just how things work. There’s no way for Pimax to stop competitors coming out with competition, but for us consumers that’s great.
That’s easy. It is because pimax knows the Crystal anf Aero would be blown away by the Vive Focus. Neither of these 2 headsets would even compare well against Google Cardboard.
