I think there is enough of audience who wants to experience riding in a plane just to sightsee. I know that sounds really weird but flatscreen when something wows you visually. It’s just alright.
In VR when something can wow you visually it really wows you visually. I think the game is even prettier than Elite.
What you are describing is yet another shallow VR experience, like all the others out there. One step above a high-resolution VR 360deg video.
DCS World sim pilots spend a lot of money, hundreds of dollars on the DCS World modules alone, for a much deeper experience in a simulator that is just realistic enough to be worth having ‘dungeon masters’ draw up geographic conflicts that take weeks to settle. With many of the DCS World sim pilots regularly training new sim pilots, the playerbase competently accessing that much depth and willing to pay for it is growing rapidly. And those players are going to have at least some inertia - they are not going to switch to another simulator just because one aspect is more shiny.
So, no, MSFS is not going to ‘replace’ DCS any time soon. The MSFS developers would have to show a commitment to something comprehensive enough to have more depth than DCS, and that is not plausible right now.
It also spent 0$ on it’s lighting engine.
There is a reason Gran Turismo and Forza sell well and it’s definitely not because they spend all their money making it realistic.
There is no ‘Rapidly growing pace of hardcore flightsims’ Anything that is hardcore is inherently bound by it’s audience. I personally like games that are niche but I’ll be the first to admit they are niche. DCS is a small niche and will be a small niche.
By any chance, are you able to get something like the DCS World FA18C through the proper startup procedure and into the air in less than 8 minutes?
I can, and it’s not really that hard. In fact, it is much tougher to get a decent HOTAS/Voice control scheme thrown together.
Disagree.
Every hundred sim pilots trained every month or so is $10k more revenue for Eagle Dynamics. That itself is enough to support at least a couple highly motivated full-time software developers.
Let’s not forget all the IRL pilots either, active or retired, for whom it is much easier to plan out the DCS World, HOTAS, radio software, etc, setup process. There are at least tens of thousands of such potential users, who may be just beginning to appreciate how much more flight time they can get from a simulator that doesn’t charge by the hour.
trollmode - there is no nuke in the MSFS, so it fails. trollmode off
If I want to relax, I fly in XPlane around my block in a helicopter or enjoy the view with ORBX in the rest of the world.
If I want to experience something, I start from the aircraft carrier and chase through the air with some other freaks.
Both beautifully both in the air, but completely different worlds.
Here’s the thing. All you need to enjoy MSFS is controller and 60USD and those outnumber HOTAS by the tens of thousands ratio wise.
I know it’s funny but you hate NMS because of the visuals and I hate DCS because of the visuals.
I’m going to blow your @mirage335
All-time Peak 2,894
That’s practically NOTHING.
Elite Dangerous -Also a Niche game.
All-time peak 21,535
No Man’s Sky
All Time Peak 212,321
24hr peak- 8,679.
[updated] Neal - fixed the NMS link
@generic nobody bought DCS at Steam. XD
everything appears there later.
No one bought DCS.
You can find the no.s if you want.
We are more then 90.000 members in the DCS community 
That’s literally nothing.
There’s 224K people on the Elite subreddit.
Ok, have also ED… played for 4hours…
But over 90.000 (only in the regular group, without FC3 and Lockout) is nothing? Okay
it is too demanding for many…
Could you please write this topic ‘after’ MS announces the combat module for FS2020?
Sure. I’ll write a topic after it gets VR mode.
Made my day… xD …
@generic & @mirage335 I hope you realize perhaps how silly this debate is.
Both types of games have their dedicated communities of players.
Arcade sims that are more pick up and play.
And technical sims that players can greatly improve their immersion by adding more realistic experiences. Ie flight sim complete cockpit controls.
A lot of folks enjoy Call of Duty Series. - Somewhat real but still a bit Arcade.
Vs games like Arma Series which adds more realism to play.
For example if we want to compare 2 War Sims that are similar but have VR support.
WarThunder has a lot of pay for content; base game is free. But is not as detailed as DCS is for things like Flightsim aspect.
Similar games can co exist as they both appeal to similar but different audiences. 
Can you play flight sims like DCS in bed sitting upright or would it make you feel sick if your feet aren’t touching the floor as your brain gets confused with motion?
I was thinking of buying a keyboard ‘lap board’ people usually use for gaming on a sofa and trying to fix a joystick/HOTAS on it and use it in bed as I can’t sit upright for long or stand.
Thanks.
I pressed like, I couldn’t help myself. Very nice setup. Is that Virpil’s latest throttle?
Thx!
Nope, a modified G940 Throttle, the hated Logitech. xD Thrown the board and pots out. Now there is an Arcaze and Hall sensors inside. Therefore, I can also let the buttons light up, depending on the state. The G940 mechanic is very smooth. You can find electrical defective Throttle for $30 on ebay.com. A little bit love, much better then the original. (fastest way a leoboard or arduino)
My sticks are from VKB, the ruder crosswinds. On the picture is my old Hoffmann Simped.
For a short time i also had Virpils, but VKB is defintifly the quality winner.
