It would have been fine at 90Hz which was the goal. The drop to 80Hz came much later so could have adverse effects on video. As you say, testers will verify.
We also know it can do variable Hz as they tested at 80, 82, 85 and 90. So dropping to 72/60 should be feasible too.
60 75 90 option would be perfect for video playback,
80 is indeed not optimal since you would have to scale to 20 first (from usual 24,25,30) which will result in unecessary loss. It‘s funny though that most of my friends do not the difference but once you see it‘s like eating the apple of Adam…
I know what you mean. My 55" Tv didn’t notice a dead pixel near the bottom of the screen. Until a friend pointed it out. After that my eyes would keep zooming to thst spot. Lol
I was able to kinda fix it. I took a really fine black permanent marker & put a dot over the cyan pixel. Very effective in making it have less presence.
It was asked in early days if pimax would support 60hz due to optimus laptops intel igpu would have a powerful nvidia gpu passthrough but with a restriction of 60hz.
But we’ll have to wait & see what the team brings. If BW works well 60hz BW spun to 120hz would be awesome. (Potenially) We might need to wait on 60hz as a future feature depending on teams current workload refining core features.
Waiting for feedback on this issue is not needed. We already know the answer. The 8k has to have a 60hz option or it will be a massive flop.
Now, I don’t think that will happen, because I don’t see any technical reason why the thing can’t do 60hz. But it’s just REALLY concerning that it is taking so long to get a straight answer… Just ask one of the damn engineers. Seriously this thread is almost a month old…
Or wait until the team answers as they are likely busy doing other things.
think your missing my point. at no stage has Pimax ever said the 8K will be designed for 60hz, its like saying i have a new flash one of a kind designed jet boat and that’s all its claimed to be and now your saying let it have oars! after it has been designed already
the animal is being beta tested, you cant expect them to change the internals because 1 person says they need to do it.
Wrong. Pimax said it when they set out to build a successful HMD. Because you see, in order to build a successful HMD, you must support one of this biggest (arguably THE biggest) driving forces for VR (video).
So yeah, I think it was fair for us to assume that such a bleeding edge HMD would have an OPTIONAL 60hz mode.
@deletedpimaxrep1 again, please just take 2 minutes and ask one of the engineers for clarification.
please show me where they said this… link to thread or post or website … well anything really.
If your concerned about video in a virtual cinema. Different things can render at different fps. It was a complaint in dirt rally when they abimated the stearing wheel. Was animated atca different fps.
1 will have to wait on a reply from the team they are on holiday.
Atm 60hz feature might not be important at this time as they are likely working on other things atm.
They have had more than enough time to respond. All we are asking is for confirmation that they are aware of the issue.
I don’t mind if the M1’s can’t do 60hz, as long the issue will be fixed before the consumer version.
It wasn’t fixed in the Rift cv1 or Vive. Video in cinema can run at 60 fps while the rest runs higher.
They haven’t likely responded as atm there is no new information. So just be patient & wait in the mean time.
There is much more important things to have working before worrying about custom refresh rates one can do in Video Mode.
@crony can explain things like this as your vid card will be able to access the headset as a more regular display.
No, that is incorrect. To say there is no new information is to imply there was ever any information to begin with. This thread is now ancient, and @deletedpimaxrep1 has remained silent the whole time. That should make everyone nervous.
If she just came out and said: So I asked the engineers today (wow you were right that only took 10 seconds!), and they confirmed that we already have/will have support for 60hz, because we understand how critical video is to the success of any HMD.
That would have been fine! But to completely ignore this thread makes them look bad.
And if you think there are “more important” things (so important they can’t even ask an engineer a simple question), then you don’t understand what poor video performance will do to this headset.
They said they would look into it due to optimus laptops are restricted to 60hz.
If you need to watch movies. At 60hz to multiples of 24hz Oculus Go has got you covered.
It is not a main feature & obvious not a high priority at this time.
Move on & wait or this thread will be closed as pressure posts.
Actually, how critical is the video to the success of any HMD, do you have any data on this subject? I ask, because it never crossed my mind to use the HMD for watching videos, so I wonder why the others consider it critical.
It’s not critical; I’m not sure I’d ever do that. In general, I don’t watch movies on my PC, aside from short YouTube clips. I’m not sure that would change, just because I have a VR headset.
The only reason I’m getting an 8K is to play Elite Dangerous. Of course, once I have one, I’m sure I’ll use it for other games, but I’m doubtful about movie watching, unless there’s a flood of good 3D movies (which seem to be dying off) or 360° movies (which seem like more of a gimmick).
The only movie I ever saw completely in my Pimax 4K was the 3D version of Gravity. There is a lot of through the eyes footage in there and it was a really great experience because of that. Other movies didn’t seem that great in a headset. The colors of the Pimax 4K aren’t that great either unfortunately.
I posted exactly this question on reddit. I also would like to see a switchable refresh rate on the 8K. Let’s hope Pimax is going to implement this feature.
Wow and this is why we’re all glad you’re not in charge of marketing at Pimax. “Just go buy the competitors product” is a brilliant strategy.
The best VR experiences (at least for the short term) will be video based (and I’m not even talking about Porn, although that will be a HUGE factor). The fact that high quality pre rendered video (real or cg) can play on low end devices is critical for mainstream adoption.
I said that because you are putting high importance on a feature request; when the importance is getting core features working, then supplementary advertised features like BW & such working & debugged.
Now once core & advert features are working then work on feature requests. 60hz will be important if BW works well.
However no VR headset has placed focus on 60hz support save WMR. In the core headsets anyway. Cineliro has only focused on mainly movie watching & they have an arm to help aleviate headsetweight.
Putting pressure on feature requests before the core features is not necessary at this point in development. Something @Enopho tried to get across much to his & mine mutual frustration.
Again, calling this a “Feature Request” shows you just aren’t appreciating the significance here.
This isn’t a nice to have “feature”. This is a “we must not drop video frames, or our product will fail”.