To my research on that topic this is not true, at least not in a considerable way.
Yes, blender test/ and other applications that highly benefit from more cores may show a noticeable increase of performance.
Games do not though, we are talking maybe 2-5 fps here.
AFAIK “Big Navi” will beat a 3080 but not a 3090. Counting in the features that are NV-exclusive i would stick with the 3090.
I have a 3950x and its a real steamhammer for both gaming and productivity. If AMD managed to make it even faster i would grab one without second thought (and sell the 3950x on ebay).
Intel will have a very hard time doing so, but surprises are always possible.
Depends, if you play alot of older titles or use older stuff from for (example) Adobe then you’ll benefit from the higher singlecore speed of the 9900K. If you use recent software like DaVinci, do rendering or photogrammetry go for the 5900X or better, the 5950X.
I use an ASUS ROG Strix X570-E which costs around 320€ and this works like a charm with the 3950x. So, no, dont burn money.
Its so minimal you wont notice it. If you really need higher single core speed for a specific task you can switch off half the cores and get a bit higher clock speed.
I’m using the 3950x with a 360mm AIO cooler and i cant oc to a significant higher level without running the cpu too hot, and there is simply no sweetspot between the higher power consumption and the performance boost. Those CPUs are already running at their upper limit, at stock speed (with precision overdrive enabled) they are fast enough (at least for me, and i use it for various tasks, not only gaming).
Whoa, that one is hard. I do think AMD has a solid product here. But hypes almost always lead to disappointment. If you really wanna get sure you’ll have to wait for benchmarks from the various tech sources.
Final thought: If you are into gaming go for a 5900X, if you do video production, encoding, rendering and gaming is only half the part go for the 5950X, you’ll enjoy the additional cores.
WHy didn’t Nvidia spill the beans before their big release day?
Same reason AMD does- build interest. They showed off one exemplar of the 6000 series as a teaser at the CPU launch. It’s roughly on par or slightly below the 3080; it’s also supposed to be one or two steps down from the top sku.
I guess we’ll find out. I like the idea of 3080 performance (even if slightly below it) with lower power consumption, 16 gigs of VRAM and a lower price point.
On Intel CPUs yes. On AMD Ryzen there is x4 direct from the CPU, which can handle NVMe.
5950X will probably scale better than 5900X due to AMD binning for max clock on the higher tier card.
Regarding the MSI Gaming X trio and only 3% power limit, you need to consider the board power target to which applies that +3%.
On that card it is target 370W, and the limit 380W.
My Tuf OC 390 that arrived today has +7% but that caps out at 375W.
Then we have the Strix OC monster with 480W limit in bios… No wonder it ups that clock with proper cooling.
I’d go for the 3090 card as only upgrade for now, a 5900X + X570 motherboard with a fast m.2 nvme is nice. But next year is rocket lake and also Zen 3+ with a new socket…
We have a pc hardware category already.
It has several tags for pc hardware. #ACCESSORIES:Other-Tech
I was thinking of VRAM speed, not quantity. All FPSVR benchmarks so far show negligible impact of VRAM clocks on performance, while GPU/CPU core clock both have nearly linear impact.
Ah, that is what I was forgetting, thank you.
@SweViver Sorry I missed this. Yes, 5.3GHz vs 5.2GHz and such does matter - it is often the difference between success and failure. I occasionally push my i9-9900kF to 5.3GHz when I need to ensure DCS World will not fail, although some memory errors may result from that much overclocking…
For gaming on ryzen I am not sure anything above the 5800x will be much of an improvement as the 5900x and above will have more than one CCX with the 5900x having one ccx of 8 cores and the second ccx with 4 cores with 3.7ghz/4.8ghz and both ccx will have 32mb L3 cache
The 5800x has one full ccx with 8 cores, 3.8ghz/4.7ghz with 32 L3 cache but somehow I think the fact is all on one ccx will be more advantages than we think.
I also vote for a proper PC hardware category as the currently used tags are not good, The ACCESSORIES/Other-Tech tag is not very good or intuitive so to speak.
Hello i have made a backpack(10kg) for my personale use.
I use a HD-Plex 2x400W DC-ATX .
I have a 22.2v li-ion 29ah (3kg)
I have in the computer a zotac 2080ti amp Ed and a i5 8600k
And my computer work 1h30/1h45 in VR game.
I use 2 power diode for hotswap batterie.
And i can use it with a AC-DC power supplies for “desktops mode”.
Nice! Some of those components, in particular the PSUs, are potentially great recommendations for my projects!
I particularly like the use of diodes for OR-gating the battery inputs. Any chance those are ideal diodes, or is that just for a small standby battery?
I’m not at home now but i can send the diode(and heatsink) model later.
all current flows through the diode. so you can switch from one battery to another or to a power supply without leaving the games. (I am French and I am not sure I understood the meaning of the last sentence.)
I think you know it, but you shouldn’t connect two batteries with different charge levels anyway. this will create a very strong current that could destroy them both.
What I seen is that the 5900x is about 20% faster then 10900k in single core performace and ofc more when it come multicore. Do I dont think it is worth the upgrade, me am getting then 5900x going from 4790k and Radeon 6900XT or 3080 20GB with 64GB 3600Mhz DDR4 memory in the computer.
I am finally home.
Diode ref : DSSK80-006B (IXYS)
Rad ref : 6400BG (AAVID)
Power supply : MW UHP-750-36
“lipo charger” : DPS5015 (it is simply a power supply with adjustable voltage and current.first stage
constant current, the voltage increases. second stage the voltage is constant, the current decreases.)
battery : I contacted a manufacturer who agreed to sell me 2 custom (as a sample).
I use 2 double diodes but I suppose only one would have been enough. (I am not an electronics pro. I come from industrial maintenance)
but by doing so the current should be shared between the two junction and the max temperature should be lower and the efficiency better. (if I’m not mistaken)
I was planning to use an arduino nano and a voltage divider bridge to measure the voltage and send it to a small app on the computer and in vr. but I never took the time to do it. so I made a first measurement and I set an alarm at 1:30 to change the battery. as a last resort the BMS cuts the power supply and protects the battery.
I am intrigued by your cooling solution what would be the weight?
would it really be usable on a “portable” computer?
my backpack is already 10 kg with a battery.
I did this last Cristmas.
I do Asetto Corsa, DCS and FS2020(did get it but mainly waiting for VR).
DCS have a very high need for single core performance.
If DCS is a priority, either keep 9900K and OC if possible.
For some games with good game engines the need for CPU isnt that high.
Currently FS2020 is more or less a single core show also( I think they work on a fix). Anyway, FS2020 probably needs the best Hardware there is when it goes VR.
Of known performance 3090 is given today, AMD might come up with something but I think AMD hasnt been ”släppt sargen” since the first gen VR got out.
For CPU, if getting a 3090, you need a very fast CPU for single thread games like DCS (and FS2020 as of today). 5950X is said to clock up to 6Ghz, if this is real, it would be a very good choise, I think.
My cooling solution should be lighter weight, because none of the big heatpipes and such would be needed - only a custom ‘water’ loop (which could be switched to LN2 as appropriate), welded aluminum plate casing, and pressurized helium inside.
Those diodes are very impressive, about 70A rating. Ideal diodes are nearly 100% efficient though - they use MOSFETs and microcontrollers/opamps instead of real diodes. Still, good to know that works.
What battery management circuit did you use? Overdischarge protection is my number one concern with LiPo batteries.
From the speculation I have seen and read about the big navi card will come in at performance between the 3070 and the 3080.
I am highly doubtful it will be “better” than the 3080 or close to the 3090 in performance. Would be great to be wrong though!
However the 5950x OCing to 6ghz well don’t hold your breath for that…lol
AMD say it does 3.4ghz/4.9ghz so there is no way in hell this will oc to 6ghz
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-5950x
interesting. without the LN2 (I don’t want to be bored to find one, etc.) it would be nice.
why helium? water loop but you need a radiator?! what do you use to refresh the loop? “refrigeration compressor”? sorry I’m curious
I did not know this type of “diode” but it seems to match what I was looking for year ago.
but i think the diodes i chose are fine, not perfect, oversized, but its working
i dont know, BMS is provided(and hide) in the battery.