[quote=“fransuske, post:337, topic:4218, full:true”]Imho going from a 1080 ti to a 2080 ti not worth the upgrade prisewise…
If you’re coming from a 980Ti or less it’s a good upgrade.[/quote]
Agreed, but it feel’s like a ripoff. I have a 980Ti, so it’s a worthwhile upgrade, but I’m going to wait a bit, to see if there will be a price drop. Production costs should be coming down, since GDDR6 ram production is ramping up.
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You know guys…the real problem in technology today, ANY technology is this:
Meditate people…meditate…don’t just get caught in it, accepting it thinking it is cool, while it’s just rubbish presented to you like it is cool and revolutionary, IT IS NOT !!
Very few things and products produced in the last 40 years were really revolutionary.
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Stop trying to save our lives. Save your own.
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But you… you … yourself… you are using … the… the… INTERNET !!! You are a heretic !
YOU ARE DOOMED !!! LET ALL HOPE GO !!
If you really believe that we are not currently living in an era of rapid development and revolutionary progress… well, I am not sure what true meaning you give to the term ‘revolutionary’ then. It’s not the point that one product iteration has to be a revolution to its direct predecessor, it is about the speed of technical evolution. And in that sense the past 40 years have been truly remarkable. Actually the last 250 years, if compared to the 4,5 billion years the Earth existed before that. Just think how life of an average person has changed in that time-frame. 150 years ago there was not telephone, no cars, no radio nor TV. Railroads & industrialisation were taking off, and what happened in the following 150 years completely changed the way people live, commute, communicate.
And yes, one can argue that it is mostly happening through rapid evolutionary steps, i.e. product versions being released into the market, but where such steps accummulate to what we see over a short period of time being nothing short of revolutionary, I would consider it rather pointless to insist on that being mere evolution.
If you take the iPhone (or any other smartphone), the next one surely will not be revolutionary compared to the current one, but if you look at it in the time frame 10 years, which really historically is a ridiculously short time frame, look at the increase in computing power, the tasks such device is capable of carrying out in the meantime, etc…
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I’m not denying technology, I’m not denying progress or anything, I work with technology…
What I’m just trying to say is that people need to make sure their choices are taken consciously, and for things they really need…wisely…
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I’m not sure about that. In the not-too-distant future, phones will be passé. Everyone will have direct neural implants instead. No need to worry about dropping or losing your phone, but in order to keep up with technology, you’ll need surgery to upgrade your implant every 3 years or so.
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direct neural implants? that sounds like something I need like a hole in the head… no, wait
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Sure, you’re right that we will at some not too distant future get rid off the Smartphone. My guess is that it is replaced with AR glasses which simply place all information you currently view through the display of the smartphone and your neural implants come sometime after that.
On those, that is the point where I will gladly let others be the early adopters though and will be just a bit more cautious than I usually am with new tech. I remember having read about e.g. brain lobotomies some medical doctors thought were a good way of addressing neural issues which resulted in the patient being turned into a kind of zombie.
This is probably one of the most infamous cases (copied from Wikipedia), the really awful story of one of the Kennedy’s children:
"Placid and easygoing as a child and teenager, the maturing Rosemary Kennedy became increasingly assertive and rebellious. She was also reportedly subject to violent mood changes. Some observers have since attributed this behavior to her inability to conform to siblings who were expected to perform to high standards, as well as the hormonal surges associated with puberty. In any case, the family had difficulty dealing with her stormy moods and reckless behavior. Rosemary had begun to sneak out at night from the convent school in Washington, D.C., where she was cared for and educated. Her occasional erratic behavior frustrated her parents, who expected all of their children to behave appropriately, be goal-oriented, and act competitively. Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. was especially worried that his daughter’s behavior would shame and embarrass the family and possibly damage his political career, and those of his children.
In November 1941, when Rosemary Kennedy was 23, doctors told Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. that a neurosurgical procedure, lobotomy, would help calm her mood swings and stop her occasional violent outbursts. He decided that his daughter should have the lobotomy performed; however, he did not inform his wife Rose of this until after the procedure was completed. Rosemary was strapped to the operating table. James W. Watts, who carried out the procedure with Walter Freeman of Wingdale Psychological and Correctional Facility, described what happened next (as narrated by Ronald Kessler):
We went through the top of the head, I think she was awake. She had a mild tranquilizer. I made a surgical incision in the brain through the skull. It was near the front. It was on both sides. We just made a small incision, no more than an inch." The instrument Dr. Watts used looked like a butter knife. He swung it up and down to cut brain tissue. “We put an instrument inside”, he said. As Dr. Watts cut, Dr. Freeman asked Rosemary some questions. For example, he asked her to recite the Lord’s Prayer or sing “God Bless America” or count backwards… “We made an estimate on how far to cut based on how she responded.” … When she began to become incoherent, they stopped.
After the lobotomy, it quickly became apparent that the procedure was not successful. Kennedy’s mental capacity diminished to that of a two-year-old child. She could not walk or speak intelligibly and was incontinent.
[…] In response to her condition, Rosemary’s parents separated her from her family. Rose Kennedy did not visit her for twenty years. Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. did not visit his daughter at the institution. […] By [1969], Rosemary had learned to walk again but did so with a limp. She never regained the ability to speak clearly and her arm was palsied. […]Rosemary Kennedy died from natural causes on January 7, 2005."
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I am now prepared for the delivery of the Pimax with a Gainward GeForce RTX 2080 Phoenix 
I had to replace my 980Ti anyway, whereby the 2080Ti was too expensive for me and I wanted to skip over the 1080Ti.
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Why not the MSI RTX 2080 duke OC ? alot cheaper ( I think 
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Both MSI are a little bit too long for my case.
I did not want to change this or saw on the case 
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or just receivers implanted and the battery pc etc plugged in
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William Gibson Neuromancer. Sparked things like Cyberpunk.
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EVGA RTX 2080 XC Gaming right now on pre order 929 euro.
114 x 269 mm 2 slots
Ok… detail upgrade
Gainward GeForce RTX 2080 Phoenix “Golden Sample” pre order 899 Euro
292x112x40mm and also 2 slot
Only 8 GB of memory??? Come on, man! Do not discriminate the components inside your PC case, your gfx card deserves at least the same amount of RAM as the CPU. We are no longer in the 20th century ;-).
Anyway, enjoy your new RTX card. I am going to do a complete new build for Pimax and wonder myself, with which graphics card I will end up.
I’m hearing that the 2080 is slower than the overclocked 1080ti
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The following article is interesting:
So I think the 2080 is a good choice. I will probably know that in october.
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@Lillo How do we make consious choices? What do we need and what is wise? Please tell us.
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