However, that should be close enough for AMD to compete with the RTX 3090, since its performance increase over the 3080 is only ~10-15%. With 16GB ram, the RX 6900 XT probably has “enough” ram for most users.
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a 3090 ti could be a possibility then.
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hmm. If Pimax supports DX12, most of the AMD features should be ok. But on the other hand… who knows.
I note the 3070 release was another Nvidia flop- sold out in five minutes. Don’t count on getting an Nvidia card at anything close to MRSP until the new year.
I don’t intend to rush into anything. I’m in wait and see mode, hoping the AMD cards are available in quantity and get positive results in independent testing.
Nvidia is apparently also releasing some ‘in between’ cards- and those could be interesting.
Exciting times- but frustrating too!
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I have aorus 1080ti watercooled, guess will buy for 549$ the 6800 & will wait one-two years more to see what Nvidia brings, for me 3090 & dlss & their driver support sound good, but as nvidia got tight competition Im sure they will in rush to move to new at least 7nm process + will try push boundaries as much as they can to compete, so paying premium (1000$ more) for the product which can be obsolete in couple of months just doesn’t sound right to me, also Im going to buy 5950X, I had Phenom 4 cores in 2010 & it was working ok for me in most cases, so I assume new chip will do as well, plus I do lot of compiling & other stuff that requires more cores & multithreading, but I didn’t want to pay for threadripper as it was worse than my 5 years old CPU in single threaded application, now things got changed a bit. Never had an AMD GPU though (only at celeron times I guess I could ~2000-2005 years) so Im aware of those drivers problems & the need to downgrade a bit clock speeds to keep it stable, also 500$ not su much for the 3080 level card & should give me quite good boost there, later I guess if Nvidia will stable their stocks & price will drop a bit I will consider buying 3090+ with not less than 16GB of ram, preferably 24+, 8k gaming / graphic just too memory demanding, and we’re going in that direction with VR nowadays, I just hope AMD’s VRS will get support & DLSS won’t be so much needed due to performance. Im almost fine with my 1080TI as I don’t play Pimax much due to bad quaility screens & optics issues, so fo me 2160x2160 if current gen HMD resolution & game I play with 1080ti on Pimax apart of DCS (which struggles due to CPU) more or less work ok on shadows decreased settings like dirt rally 2. So Im almost sure buying new gen GPU will worth it, but not at premium price tag as 3090 with their 1500$ price
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except for compatibility. 
You’re not evaluating things correctly, the difference is quite significant, as AMD Compute units stack things differently from Nvidia units, the 72 CU chip has 4608 Unified shaders 288 Texture mapping Units and 128 Render Output units , while the 80 CU chip has 5120/320/128 , so there is quite a difference in both shader count and texture mapping count that both add more efficiency to the general pipeline… plus it runs at consistently higher clock rates than the Nvidia counterparts, so giving a 10% better is unrealistic. Please be more technically informed/savvy before citing things or making assumptions, first… 
Anyway, of course much of the difference on single game performance will depend on optimization and feature support, but considering all current console and Pc games are programmed from the ground up with AMD graphics in mind (because console versions are the most selling…) and the new upcoming game consoles are based on RDNA2 architecture, most Pc games will run better or very good on Radeon cards, with the exception of the few Nvidia optimized titles.
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AMD did release further benchmarks:
https://www.amd.com/en/gaming/graphics-gaming-benchmarks
As expected the 6800XT is very close to the 6900XT, which doesn’t justify the increased price imo. And the RTX 3080 becomes kind of obsolete, considering it offers similar performance to the 6800XT without X570, and worse performance with the X570 chipset.
The 6800XT will be the true winner, offering performance very close to the very best, at a very reasonable price.
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I think these are all soft paper launches.
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This is interesting. In DOOM (Vulkan, which should be more “direct” to the hardware) it seems that 6900XT is a match for 3090 and 6800XT for 3080. Otherwise it is just a once up, once down, apart from Forza, where for some reason even 6800XT beats 3090. Which could be a good indication that MS Studios are already optimizing for RDNA2 (as I assume it will be a similar codebase which will run on the new XBOX) and what the optimization may achieve.
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Thats why Nvidia will release the RTX 3070 ti and the 3080 ti respectively
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Looks like I should have kept my Tseng Labs ET4000 instead of going with the 2080 Ti… 
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You should have! 
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I mean the 6900 XT is not that much better than a 3090 and you are basically using a new CPU with it.
The cards between Nvidia and AMD are so similar in performance that I wonder if they just teamed up in order to maximize their sales. A Duopoly if you will.
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Oh… You think Lisa and Jensen have a thing going? 
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Haha, I don’t know. It just seems that people were expecting AMD to blow Nvidia out of the water with Big Navi 2. And maybe they are in price vs performance ratio. But I think this generation could have given us much better cards.
It feels like 3070, 3080, and 3090 should have been the standard a year ago.
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I think the 3090 is technically more powerful than the 6900 xt. Price and availability makes it a hard pill to swallow though
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I’m still hoping 7nm brings somethings better from Nvidia and if not my task will be to decide between a 3080Ti and a 3090 (it’s going to be very, very close performance wise, but maybe not price-wise)… 
I don’t have the patience to wait for the 4000 series, that’s for sure!
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I don’t think the 6900XT actually will be better than a 3090 on balance once independent benches have been released. But we’ll see. I’d also be sketchy about using an AMD part if your primary use case is ultra high res wide FOV VR. They don’t have a good track record (or Pimax don’t on their cards).
Also, the reason the the SKUs are close is likely because AMD let Nvidia go first and dictate the shape of the market, then made the Nvidia cards their performance target. The same way they do with CPUs and Intel. AMD’s tactic is basically offer something the same, slightly faster, or slightly slower, than the current best part in that category. It’s worked well for them with CPUs, so why not I guess.
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Not even AMD is claiming that the 6900XT is faster than an RTX 3090. People seem to misinterpret AMD’s marketing slides.
They’re clearly just trying to show that the 6900XT can even compete with the 3090. They are doing that by showing that in some select cases the 6900XT can even outperform it, while also showing that in other cases the 3090 is still faster.
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